Thoughts on De La Hoya.

[Dark Destroyer]

STURM won the fight 8-4 in rounds. My old man who is a complete Delahoya FANATIC called me during the last round to tell me Oscar got trounced. When they announced the decision he was shocked and agreed with the crowd who screamed "BULL****"! Oscar couldn't focus because he was getting a ramrod jab stuffed down his kisser every 5 seconds. STURM is going to beat Hopkins handily over the distance.....

I admire your loyalty towards Sturm but it's not going to happen ever. Bernard will be victorious if they ever meet.

[NichtGeflechten]

I have no loyalty to STURM. I do have quite a sweet tooth for winning though! Remember this Wez: hope with yer heart but bet with your head!

[Dark Destroyer]

I have no loyalty to STURM. I do have quite a sweet tooth for winning though! Remember this Wez: hope with yer heart but bet with your head!

Spoken like a true gambler, in this case though i would be betting with my head by routing for Bernard and my heart.

The executioner will be victorious

[Atman]

Everyone thought he would look badly against Hopkins but he held his own.

Who's everyone? Half of boxingscene.com thought De La Hoya would win and a 2-1 underdog doesn't indicate that 'everyone' thought he'd look bad. This might be a minor point, but I see people already trying to revise history. Folks that thought DLH was the far superior boxer are now amazed that he was able to even compete with the man. Huh? What happened to all the comments about the hand and foot speed that was supposed to befuddle the old, slow-footed Hopkins?

Anyways, Oscar has options but him and Arum have to be much more flexible at the negotiating table to make them happen.

[Dr Cynical]

Who's everyone? Half of boxingscene.com thought De La Hoya would win and a 2-1 underdog doesn't indicate that 'everyone' thought he'd look bad. This might be a minor point, but I see people already trying to revise history. Folks that thought DLH was the far superior boxer are now amazed that he was able to even compete with the man. Huh? What happened to all the comments about the hand and foot speed that was supposed to befuddle the old, slow-footed Hopkins?

Anyways, Oscar has options but him and Arum have to be much more flexible at the negotiating table to make them happen.

Before the media started hyping the event.
Everyone said how Hopkins would do this and that and we would see an early KO.

[Atman]

Are you implying that you and half the board picked DLH because of media hype?

[Dr Cynical]

Are you implying that you and half the board picked DLH because of media hype?

I noticed that alot of the members backed DLH after the hype.
I've never really cared for Hopkins so I picked DLH from the start.
Since I only had two choices.

[FrankJack]

Oscar doesn't need to be in the middleweight division. He's too easily outpowered there. He couldn't hurt Sturm, and he was physically weak in comparison to Hopkins (fast as hell though, but still weak). I think Oscar should go back down and fight. There doesn't seem to be much of a future in the middleweight division for him, I don't think. If he is going to stay in the middleweights (which, I hope he doesn't), I would like for him to give Sturm a rematch.

[deuce_drop]

me personally, i think he did well against hopkins for the first 3 rounds. in the 4th you could see he was starting to slow down, he didn't end with any fluries after that( his round stealing strategy), like the previous rounds.... but he's way to rich now to have that edge, and i don't care what anyone else says. when you got a **** load of cash, the last thing you really want to do is fight, you can talk about history and glory, honor, and all that. but you really lose the fighting edge, that hunger that makes you a balls out fighter when your rich, look at all the things he's accomplished in the ring (and out). maybe avenging his lost to tito would give him some fuel, but thats about it...

he really doesn't have anything to prove to anybody anymore, he's a great fighter and was a great champ, his plate is still full with boxing, just not with him in the ring anymore, as a fighter...

one example of a fighter who saw some cash and couldn't keep his edge was Vernon Forrest........

[tonytucker]

There is no way Sturm has the capablities to beat Bernard prime or present. He gave Oscar a good fight but that was Oscars first fight as a middleweight and Oscar didn't even train seriously.

Oscar couldn"t deal with the reach of the middleweights.