Mayweather: "Mosley Knocks Cotto Out Cold"

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  • northstar
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    #91
    Originally posted by Addison
    Speaking of the Forrest fight.. I've been watching that for the 86th time right now. That headbutt stunned Mosley horribly in the second. Only moments after that Forrest rocked him and put him down. Shane was BADLY hurt. He didn't recover for like 5 minutes and continued to get hurt. But towards midway he was hurting Forrest and winning rounds.

    I don't know if it will get to that level - but with the way both Mosley and Cotto can recover from getting hurt and delivering hurt; this could honestly be one of the greatest fights of all time. They can put each other down and both get back up multiple times. Both these guys can do it.

    At least I know Mosley can. Forrest murdered him with that combo. Forrest was throwing some of the most vicious looking shots I remember seeing in a ring ever that night. And one of those shots was right on a brand new fresh surgery scar on Shane's waistline. "The hardest shot" Mosley says he ever took.

    Shane had that same look that Vargas did at the end of the Trinidad fight after he got up from the knockdowns.. And HE CAME BACK. Insane. When Judah got hurt against Baldomir he just ran for 7 rounds or whatever it was.. Totally different with Mosley. Shane was fighting back and putting MONSTER shots on Vernon. Forrest was clinching Mosley alot.

    Cotto has never been hit that hard. No where near. Mosley can generate signifiicant power. He hurt Winky and Forrest multiple times in losing efforts.

    Mosley is TOUGH. This is gonna get ugly..

    I also recall, sometime after the fight, that forrest mentioned mosley bursted his ear drum.

    A few weekends ago while watching some old school fights (hearns leonard I in particular) I noticed that most fighters of yesteryear didn't fight as defensively as fighters do now.

    After watching Mosley-Forrest I, i watched leonard-Hearns I in order to figure out how a skilled smaller fighter might be able to compose a strategy to beat a tall skilled fighter, and noticed one big reason why leonard was able to defeat hearns. Not excluding leonards skill determination etc., hearns didn't fight as defensively against leonard as forrest did against mosley. He didn't hold as much (which was a part of vernon's strategy) and at some points negelected to keep his hands up while getting hit. In mosley's losses, he fought two fighters who had the extremely rare combination of being big, tall, skillful, and in their primes (or at least close to). In winky and vernon, you had 2 fighters who when fighting opponents who they respected, worked behind their jabs, picked their shots intelligently (rarely overcommitting) and were defensively sharp. This is extremely hard for a shorter opponent to overcome. Fighters, even the very elite, seldomly take the risk of fighting opponents with these qualities.

    It is my belief that if forrest, or even wright for that matter, were not as disciplined as they are/were (at least when fighting opponents that they consider to be legitimate threats), mosley would have been able to pull out some victories against these two. Sustained recklessness against the sugar man might have landed them in serious trouble (and remember shane was the smaller man, that says alot, think about it).
    Last edited by northstar; 10-24-2007, 08:41 PM.

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    • Dorian
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      #92
      it will be a good fight either way

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      • Addison
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        #93
        Originally posted by northstar
        I also recall, sometime after the fight, that forrest mentioned mosley bursted his ear drum.

        A few weekends ago while watching some old school fights (hearns leonard I in particular) I noticed that most fighters of yesteryear didn't fight as defensively as fighters do now.

        After watching Mosley-Forrest I, i watched leonard-Hearns I in order to figure out how a skilled smaller fighter might be able to compose a strategy to be a tall skilled fighter, and noticed one big reason why leonard was able to defeat hearns. Not excluding leonards skill determination etc. hearns didn't fight as defensively against leonard as forrest did against mosley. He didn't hold as much (which was a part of vernon's strategy) and at some points negelected to keep his hands up while getting hit. In mosley's losses, he fought two fighters who had the extremely rare combination of being big, tall, skillful, and in their primes (or at least close to). In winky and vernon, you had 2 fighters who when fighting opponents who they respected, worked behind their jabs, picked their shots intelligently (rarely overcommitting) and were defensively sharp. This is extremely hard for a shorter opponent to overcome. Fighters, even the very elite, seldomly take the risk of fighting opponents with these qualities.

        It is my belief that if forrest, or even wright for that matter, were not as disciplined as they are/were (at least when fighting opponents that they consider to be legitimate threats), mosley would have been able to pull out some victories against these two. Sustained recklessness against the sugar man might have landed them in serious trouble (and remember shane was the smaller man, that says alot, think about it).
        Very astute post.

        I'm a student of the game like yourself, cheers.

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        • Derranged
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          #94
          If he catches Cotto with a left like he caught Vargas with, it could get ugly for Cotto. But who knows.

          Mayweather would beat Cotto, by the way, for those saying otherwise.

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          • northstar
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            #95
            Originally posted by Addison
            Speaking of the Forrest fight.. I've been watching that for the 86th time right now. That headbutt stunned Mosley horribly in the second. Only moments after that Forrest rocked him and put him down. Shane was BADLY hurt. He didn't recover for like 5 minutes and continued to get hurt. But towards midway he was hurting Forrest and winning rounds.
            I don't think mosley getting hurt after the headbutt was a coincidence. I don't recall seeing shane even remotely in trouble, or hurt, before or after this fight. This is a guy who stood toe-toe with de la hoya and vargas.
            Last edited by northstar; 10-24-2007, 08:59 PM.

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            • Unseen
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              #96
              Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
              It takes alot more bravery to post on an Internet boxing forum than it takes to get in the ring with Corrales, Castillo, Judah and Delahoya.
              pay me 10 millino dollars and i'll jump in with them.

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              • joepal
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                #97
                Originally posted by Unseen
                pay me 10 millino dollars and i'll jump in with them.
                I'll face Evander for 500K.

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                • THe TRiNiTY
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Unseen
                  pay me 10 millino dollars and i'll jump in with them.

                  Yeah, but you wont win. And I doubt you look anything close to impressive, skilled or TRULY brave.

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                  • CubaRican718
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                    This will be bad winter for Boricuas. Trust.

                    Cotto and Tito. 0 for 2.
                    typical for a dominican to be jealous of a puerto rican...
                    nuff said

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                    • AntonTheMeh
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by CubaRican718
                      typical for a dominican to be jealous of a puerto rican...
                      nuff said
                      he got banned all ready for stalking floyd mayweather.

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