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  • -Hyperion-
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    #31
    Originally posted by GunStar
    But still Judah was junito best career win, what does tell you about Junito??
    Cotto still doesnt have a defining fight, but you cant deny he has ought good competition consistently...

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      #32
      Originally posted by -Hyperion-
      i didnt sya they had to have a great fight to be elite....

      and hopkins aint elite to me, basically him, caballero and williams are similar, they are successful because of their physical assets and their awkward style, but nothing more....hopkins for example lost to the best 2 big middlewights he faced because he didnt have the physical advantages to impose his style, and winky beat him even while being smaller simply by having a good gameplan taking away hopkins's right hand.....
      Bitchnard is definitely elite in my opinion, the man has one of the best defense in boxing, I can't stand the mother ****er but he's def elite.

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        #33
        Hopkins is def. elite. You're not helping anymore, Hyperion. The real 160 lb champ with 20 defenses. Williams is like the #6 welterweight, that's not elite

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          #34
          Originally posted by kayjay
          Not completely sold on Cotto, though I enjoy him and respect him.

          Williams isn't that good. He's another one of these sudden hypes that make a stink on the boards, like Miranda last year but a completely different style. In a year he'll be old news

          You want a soft-punching southpaw who's elite, follow Chad Dawson, not Paul Williams.
          I don't agree, he has already beaten the most feared man in boxing, so it's not fair to compare him to Miranda.

          I don't see many welterweights beating Williams, so he will be a tough fight for anyone including PBF.

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            #35
            Originally posted by GunStar
            Bitchnard is definitely elite in my opinion, the man has one of the best defense in boxing, I can't stand the mother ****er but he's def elite.
            he has a good defense and is a tough mother****er with an akwward style and physical advantages in the middlewright division, nothing more to me....

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              #36
              Originally posted by GunStar
              Can you name me a fighter Cotto has beaten that is a bigger win then Margarito??
              Bailey
              N'Dou
              Malignaggi
              Torres
              Corley
              Maussa
              Bazan
              Judah

              All former or current title holders. He's faced solid guys his whole career. No one great, but good fighters. Williams beat one good guy and oh yeah the guy Cintron just nearly killed.

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                #37
                Originally posted by kayjay
                Hopkins is def. elite. You're not helping anymore, Hyperion. The real 160 lb champ with 20 defenses. Williams is like the #6 welterweight, that's not elite
                well yeah obciously williams is legues behind hopkins, but i have never considered old hopkins elite, young hopkins was elite...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                  Cotto still doesnt have a defining fight, but you cant deny he has ought good competition consistently...
                  He's fought some decent boxers, I will give you that.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by -Antonio-
                    Bailey
                    N'Dou
                    Malignaggi
                    Torres
                    Corley
                    Maussa
                    Bazan
                    Judah

                    All former or current title holders. He's faced solid guys his whole career. No one great, but good fighters. Williams beat one good guy and oh yeah the guy Cintron just nearly killed.
                    You my friend just yourself with this list. Not one of those fights are tougher then Margarito the most feared man in boxing.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by GunStar
                      I don't agree, he has already beaten the most feared man in boxing, so it's not fair to compare him to Miranda.

                      I don't see many welterweights beating Williams, so he will be a tough fight for anyone including PBF.
                      The most feared man in boxing? Did you ever believe that? I sure as hell didn't

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