Is Junito Ducking The Punisher??

[GunStar]

i agree with KJ, it was a boring sloppy fight and the fighters proved they were good but nowhere near elite///

I don't think it was either boring or a great fight, I think it was a good fight.

Just watch the Hopkins/Wright fight, those 2 are elites as you can get and it was a more boring fight then Williams/Margarito.

So a great fight does not nessecesary turn you into an elite fighter.

[GunStar]

He's not getting special treatment. He's been an HBO headliner for years, all building up to these next few big money fights. Fighting Williams would be going backwards.

Lets be honest, Junito has been pampered through his whole career by HBO and Bob Arum.

[kayjay]

He didn't say they aren't elite BECAUSE the fight was boring, just that they aren't elite and the fight was boring.

You're right Hopkins-Wright was kind of ugly, but that was expected.

[-Hyperion-]

I think Williams is better then Junito, now look at this this way, Punisher beats Margarito who was the Champ for many years, Junito beats Judah who was already PWNED by Baldy and Floyd.

he beat a Margarito who was ****** enough to let him do his fight...i agree there is no value in beating Judah because he's always been grossly overrated, but junito(by the way, wat the **** does that mean??) is a better fighter witha a better resume, who has constantly fought good opposition, with a crowd pleasing style, and who is more marketable because of his nationality and stuff, besdes, it was already rumored before the margarito williams fight tjat if margo lost, cotto would fight mosley, and yeah, williams and cintron should unify...that way they basically will be the only man the winner of floyd/hatton/mosley/cotto will have to fight....

[kayjay]

Lets be honest, Junito has been pampered through his whole career by HBO and Bob Arum.

I don't know, he fought the guys he should have, boxers, punchers, fast guys, fading names, up and comers.

You're being a little unreasonable, you have to see that fighting Williams at this point is pointless. You just like the long-armed black man b/c you associate the long appendages . . . .

[GunStar]

He didn't say they aren't elite BECAUSE the fight was boring, just that they aren't elite and the fight was boring.

You're right Hopkins-Wright was kind of ugly, but that was expected.

Well Williams is definitely elite and Margarito proved he's tough mother ****er.

KayGay do you think Junito is elite??

[GunStar]

he beat a Margarito who was ****** enough to let him do his fight...i agree there is no value in beating Judah because he's always been grossly overrated, but junito(by the way, wat the **** does that mean??) is a better fighter witha a better resume, who has constantly fought good opposition, with a crowd pleasing style, and who is more marketable because of his nationality and stuff, besdes, it was already rumored before the margarito williams fight tjat if margo lost, cotto would fight mosley, and yeah, williams and cintron should unify...that way they basically will be the only man the winner of floyd/hatton/mosley/cotto will have to fight....

But still Judah was junito best career win, what does tell you about Junito??

[-Hyperion-]

I don't think it was either boring or a great fight, I think it was a good fight.

Just watch the Hopkins/Wright fight, those 2 are elites as you can get and it was a more boring fight then Williams/Margarito.

So a great fight does not nessecesary turn you into an elite fighter.

i didnt sya they had to have a great fight to be elite....

and hopkins aint elite to me, basically him, caballero and williams are similar, they are successful because of their physical assets and their awkward style, but nothing more....hopkins for example lost to the best 2 big middlewights he faced because he didnt have the physical advantages to impose his style, and winky beat him even while being smaller simply by having a good gameplan taking away hopkins's right hand.....

[kayjay]

Well Williams is definitely elite and Margarito proved he's tough mother ****er.

KayGay do you think Junito is elite??

Not completely sold on Cotto, though I enjoy him and respect him.

Williams isn't that good. He's another one of these sudden hypes that make a stink on the boards, like Miranda last year but a completely different style. In a year he'll be old news

You want a soft-punching southpaw who's elite, follow Chad Dawson, not Paul Williams.

[GunStar]

I don't know, he fought the guys he should have, boxers, punchers, fast guys, fading names, up and comers.

You're being a little unreasonable, you have to see that fighting Williams at this point is pointless. You just like the long-armed black man b/c you associate the long appendages . . . .

Since when Junitio makes all the calls, who the **** is he??