Do KO's even matter any more?

[.Mik.]

Yeah, ****ing quitter.

You seem to be arguing on a completely different subject though.

[gixxer]

yea they do to mayweather........................................ .....bawbhahbwhbawbahbwahbwhbwabhwhbwhbwbwhwa

[FightNight 2007]

i disagree. if you get KO'd, you can always say "it was a lucky punch. put me in the ring with that guy 10 times, and 8 or 9 times out of 10 i'll be the one who lands the knock out punch. he just happened to be lucky that this time he got in there 1st".

"Lucky punches" come from MISTAKES which is exactly what I pointed out. Nice try though.

[kayjay]

The goal in a fight is to knock the other guy out. If that can't be done, then a decision is awarded, but a knockout is still better than two or three decision wins in my book.

[kayjay]

You raise an interesting point. For some reason we require Heavyweights to use incredible power to knock their opponents out, instead of masterful skills to out-tactic them to a strong decision victory. Moreso than we do with any other division. Why?
Is this also why we're ending up with a load of hugely massive fighters who are in questionable shape and put on fight after fight of aimless skill-less slugging...with a few exceptions of course?

To me the weakness of the lower divisions is that the fighters can't punch hard enough to hurt each other with one punch. This conditions the strength of those divisions, namely that there can be more involved exchanges. But the drama isn't there. To me the HWs are much more exciting, even when they're being overly cautious, because you know at any moment either guy can knock the other guy out. It demands better concentration on the fighters' part.

[.Mik.]

Aye. Thats cos you're a bloodthirsty brute though.

[BK Saddizzle]

To quote Apollo Creed "Look in their eyes Rock, that's what you lost, the eye of Tiger...". KO's have alot to do wit how hungry these fighters are (ie: RJJ could've finished Hanshaw from the 4th rnd but took the decision & ain't KO'd NOOOOOObody since 2001). Also these refs stop fights kinda prematurely these days (ie: back in the day Arturo Gatti used to get dropped, bloodied FUBR & still come back to KO his opponents). Lastly, with all the heat comin down on MMA & then MMA pointing @ the stats in boxing for fatalities, the powers that be are content to let fights end with controversy, & it gives'em reason to schedule the rematch, Dig It?!?