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  • DLT
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    #11
    Originally posted by jaredleto
    mayweather koing him ? hes just gonna potshot his way to win and ppl gonna pay 60 bucks to see it
    Again, his previous 6 fights before Oscar & Baldy. He had Zab running on fumes and couldve possibly stopped him if it wasnt for the low blows. Did Floyd not walk him down all night? He stopped Mitchell in like 5 rounds, he stopped Gatti in 6, he stopped Bruseles in like 7, he dropped Corley twice in a super exciting fight which was his 1st at 140 and it was all action, he stopped N'Dou in 5. Again, people act like all they remember is his last 2 fights. Compare the size of the last 2 guys against the other guys. Its no comparison. ****ing Oscar & Baldy walk around at nearly 200 pounds, Baldy cant be hurt at all and is as strong as an ox, Oscar just KTFO of a big strong guy like Mayorga but Floyd is a ***** for pot shotting then when he comes into the ring at 148 pounds? He had to eat to death to do that. he didnt even look bigger then Pac against EM in there last fight. The guy is super small

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      #12
      Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
      Bull**** he's small, he has little muscle and little power but he is pretty tall and was actually MEASURING ODLH during their fight, he had more reach than him obviously. He had Oscar walking forward blindly into what should have been 3 punch combo's leading to stoppage or 10-8 rounds but instead were jabs to gloves. The guy can do damage from combinations, he's just scared to death to take even the slightest risks.
      Come on man, he's not that tall. He's only 5'8 while Oscar is 5'11. He's going to KO a guy who Tito, Vargas, Mosley, or Mayorga never hurt once? You guys are giving Floyd was too much of a hard time for that. Sure, he probally couldve done a little more but Oscar fought a much different fight then Floyd expected. I think everyone in the world thought that Oscar would go all out with that huge size advantage. In that case Floyd wouldve fired back but Oscar instead walked in slowly and he never really took any chances his ownself. In the fight with Floyd Oscar was bigger then he was in all of those fights and those guys were also way bigger then Floyd but they couldnt hurt Oscar and there all punches. Then you have Floyd Sr. scaring floyd the whole camp basically telling him non stop to respect Oscar's power and keep your distance

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      • BmoreBrawler
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        #13
        Originally posted by DLT
        Come on man, he's not that tall. He's only 5'8 while Oscar is 5'11. He's going to KO a guy who Tito, Vargas, Mosley, or Mayorga never hurt once? You guys are giving Floyd was too much of a hard time for that. Sure, he probally couldve done a little more but Oscar fought a much different fight then Floyd expected. I think everyone in the world thought that Oscar would go all out with that huge size advantage. In that case Floyd wouldve fired back but Oscar instead walked in slowly and he never really took any chances his ownself. In the fight with Floyd Oscar was bigger then he was in all of those fights and those guys were also way bigger then Floyd but they couldnt hurt Oscar and there all punches. Then you have Floyd Sr. scaring floyd the whole camp basically telling him non stop to respect Oscar's power and keep your distance
        I'll say it again, Floyd was measuring ODLH, which means he put his hand in his face and kept him at a distance where he was unable to land punches do to the reach differential, like big kids do to little kids in cartoons. He has the reach advantage, he had oscar beaten mentally and stopped him from throwing for 2-3 rounds straight, and plenty of KO's are by volume not by power, anyone can KO anyone if they land enough and Floyd was in a position to land enough.

        oh, and floyd never even TRIED to TAKE the belt from OScar, just do the minimum to MAYBE win. In the old days he wouldve never been given that win. Just goes to show you how meaningless the belts are these days, the judges give the advantage to the stylistic favorite rather than the champ.

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        • Kball15
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          #14
          Originally posted by Easton Assassin


          Fact: Hatton is the first PRIME,LEGIT,P4P RANKED, UNDEFEATED FIGHTER MAYWEATHER HAS EVER FACED! THATS A COLD HARD ***IN FACT, UNDENIABLE!!!

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          Lol. If you face and beat ONE of those in ur career, ur probably a hall of famer. lol

          Im a Hatton fan, and ive come to the realization that my boy Hatton is in for his first ever loss. However, ill be watching to see what he's really made of. Does he really have the balls to walk through pain for 12 rounds, and will he still be trying in the 12th round or will he be half pressing the action and half avoiding it.

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            #15
            Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
            I'll say it again, Floyd was measuring ODLH, which means he put his hand in his face and kept him at a distance where he was unable to land punches do to the reach differential, like big kids do to little kids in cartoons. He has the reach advantage, he had oscar beaten mentally and stopped him from throwing for 2-3 rounds straight, and plenty of KO's are by volume not by power, anyone can KO anyone if they land enough and Floyd was in a position to land enough.

            oh, and floyd never even TRIED to TAKE the belt from OScar, just do the minimum to MAYBE win. In the old days he wouldve never been given that win. Just goes to show you how meaningless the belts are these days, the judges give the advantage to the stylistic favorite rather than the champ.
            I cant deny Floyd's reach as it is clearly one of his best assets but I just think that in the 1st fight it wouldve actually been easier for Floyd if Oscar was more aggressive. Also, lets get real about the belt stuff. Floyd was the real champ. Oscar had the title but Floyd was the P4P King and favored to win the fight. If anything, most judges would probally say that Oscar had to take it from Floyd and he clearly didnt try to do that. I do agree with some things you said and Ive always said that I think a rematch would be totally different.

            I actually rewatched one round of it the other day and I saw something that I remembered to talk about after the fight but I forgot and no one else spoke of. Floyd was nervous, straight up. Oscar said it in the whole lead up that he's been under the big lights many times before but Floyd hasnt and that would hurt him. You could clearly see in between rounds that Floyd was acting way different then he normally does. He wasnt ready for that stage yet. I also think that may be a factor in the Hatton fight because I think Floyd would feel more comfortable this time while Hatton will have nerves. You could see Floyd having a strange look on his face and trying to breathe just right. I also think that he honestly had alot of fear & questions going into that fight. I really believe that he didnt know how his body would react at 154 and how strong Oscar would be. I think he was a little scared to go all out for fear that he may tire at that weight like Winky did against Hopkins and Oscar did against Sturm or Morlaes against Diaz. I also think that he thought Oscar could seriously hurt him. Now that he see's that he could handle the weight and Oscar cant really dont much too him then he would be more agressive in a rematch and I think it would be alot more exciting. Ive also always said that I think the fight wouldve been like your thoughts were if it had been at 147. I just honestly think the 154 put some fear in Floyd and he had nerves

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              #16
              Originally posted by DLT
              Come on man, he's not that tall. He's only 5'8 while Oscar is 5'11. He's going to KO a guy who Tito, Vargas, Mosley, or Mayorga never hurt once? You guys are giving Floyd was too much of a hard time for that. Sure, he probally couldve done a little more but Oscar fought a much different fight then Floyd expected. I think everyone in the world thought that Oscar would go all out with that huge size advantage. In that case Floyd wouldve fired back but Oscar instead walked in slowly and he never really took any chances his ownself. In the fight with Floyd Oscar was bigger then he was in all of those fights and those guys were also way bigger then Floyd but they couldnt hurt Oscar and there all punches. Then you have Floyd Sr. scaring floyd the whole camp basically telling him non stop to respect Oscar's power and keep your distance
              Originally posted by DLT
              I cant deny Floyd's reach as it is clearly one of his best assets but I just think that in the 1st fight it wouldve actually been easier for Floyd if Oscar was more aggressive. Also, lets get real about the belt stuff. Floyd was the real champ. Oscar had the title but Floyd was the P4P King and favored to win the fight. If anything, most judges would probally say that Oscar had to take it from Floyd and he clearly didnt try to do that. I do agree with some things you said and Ive always said that I think a rematch would be totally different.

              I actually rewatched one round of it the other day and I saw something that I remembered to talk about after the fight but I forgot and no one else spoke of. Floyd was nervous, straight up. Oscar said it in the whole lead up that he's been under the big lights many times before but Floyd hasnt and that would hurt him. You could clearly see in between rounds that Floyd was acting way different then he normally does. He wasnt ready for that stage yet. I also think that may be a factor in the Hatton fight because I think Floyd would feel more comfortable this time while Hatton will have nerves. You could see Floyd having a strange look on his face and trying to breathe just right. I also think that he honestly had alot of fear & questions going into that fight. I really believe that he didnt know how his body would react at 154 and how strong Oscar would be. I think he was a little scared to go all out for fear that he may tire at that weight like Winky did against Hopkins and Oscar did against Sturm or Morlaes against Diaz. I also think that he thought Oscar could seriously hurt him. Now that he see's that he could handle the weight and Oscar cant really dont much too him then he would be more agressive in a rematch and I think it would be alot more exciting. Ive also always said that I think the fight wouldve been like your thoughts were if it had been at 147. I just honestly think the 154 put some fear in Floyd and he had nerves
              hey, well im happy you've though things out, you might be right about the whole p4p being the real belt thing but thats kind of sickening if you think about it, an unofficial title being the real title and all. Particularly considering that Oscar is a legend. as far as "taking" the belt from mayweather, Oscar tried to the best of his ability; sure it was ugly but he was the only aggressor in the fight.

              And there is no doubt Floyd was scared, I give him credit for executing his gameplan perfectly in spite of that, but he didnt put the last nail in the coffin like he could have.
              Last edited by BmoreBrawler; 08-14-2007, 01:06 AM.

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                #17
                Quit hating. Hatton is not on Floyd's level. Floyd did look fast against Baldomir, and against Judah he walked him down your not gonna look fast doing that. If anyone's delusional you are.

                When Floyd makes Hatton look ****** what will your excuse be?

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                • brently1979
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                  #18
                  I hope your joking. You forgot to mention a prime unbeaten Corrales in the Mayweather Resume and Hernandez. If your going to do post like this at least do your homework.

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                  • Amir K Shareef
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                    #19
                    lmao assain is a dumbass

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                    • squealpiggy
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                      #20
                      Quit hating. Hatton is not on Floyd's level.
                      Haha seriously.

                      Hatton is a p4p rated fighter around the same weight-class and is the legit champ 7 lbs south of where Floyd is the legit champ. That means that whether Hatton is on Floyd's level or not, he's certainly in the same league!

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