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  • robjr
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    #21
    Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!!
    this is a great article from max boxing

    Yup, you read my headline correctly.

    In an age when too many boxers act like businessmen inside the ring, when we've been so conditioned to lower the bar on what an entertaining fight is (where more and more we say ‘Well, that wasn't as rancid as we all expected’ as if somehow that makes it good) and when the sport is fighting for its share in the marketplace versus MMA – thank God for the Mexican fighters.

    I know, I know, it's politically incorrect and it may rankle some of you out there, but as Bill Belichick would say “It is what it is.”

    In this country, Mexican fighters and their fan bases are the backbone of the boxing industry. Without them this business is completely irrelevant. And just as importantly, the fights they participate in are the ones that not only retain fans but create new ones. It's them – and the little guys in general – that give us our most memorable moments.

    You can have all your “boxing matches” (a newfound euphemism for “boring”) or Quinton Jackson-Chuck Lidell. Gimme two world-class Mexican fighters doing what they do.

    And they usually do it for less money than their other colleagues for whatever reason. Maybe it's because they don't always speak fluent English and are thought of as foreigners. Perhaps they don't have the correct “advisor” for certain networks. Maybe they should act like malcontents, make outrageous financial demands and act foul and belligerent to get respect.

    But as George Lopez said about Mexican workers, they just put their head down, shut up and work harder – which was shown once again this past weekend in Hidalgo, Texas and Rosemont, Illinois (near Chicago) as a pair of promotions headlined by Mexican and Mexican-American boxers gave the sport and it's followers a fantastic night.

    Israel Vasquez and Rafael Marquez did something very difficult at the Dodge Arena. They actually raised the ante on what was one of the best fights of 2007 by putting on what has to be the front runner for 'Fight of the Year'. Rounds one through seven were outstanding, rounds eight through 13 were even better. It was violent, brutal and passionate. A beautiful combination when put into this context as Vasquez and Marquez swapped leather throughout the heated rematch.

    But the action wasn't just emotionally stunning; it also had a degree of skill and science that was breathtaking to watch. Marquez with his master skills from the outside landing hard, whistling right-crosses and body blows from in close, and Vasquez using subtle movement to close the gap and work over both sides of his opponent with a two-fisted attack. As the rounds mounted, you could see the battle scars on both men, who were cut, bloodied and bruised. Round three should be put into a time capsule as it could the most remarkable round this reporter has witnessed since the tenth frame of Diego Corrales-Jose Luis Castillo I back in 2005.

    The first encounter between the two was defined by the technical precision of Marquez from the outside. The rematch should be remembered for the will and 'want-to' of Vasquez, who had to call it a day back in March because of the condition of his nose which left him unable to breathe properly. You get the strong sense on this particular evening, you could've decapitated him and he would've kept coming all night long. While he was stung more than once from the blistering punches of Marquez, he seemed to react much better to those shots in the return bout.

    With the aid of new trainer Rudy Perez, whose stock is rising fast, Vasquez did a better job of keeping his hands up and working off the jab. But what was really key was smothering Marquez on the inside, not allowing him to unfurl his long limbs. It was here in this landscape where Vasquez was able to impose his superior size and strength on Marquez.

    Marquez, who lost for the first time in seven years, is very close to being the perfect prizefighter. But while Achilles had his heel, Marquez has his chin. Not that it's a terrible chin, but it can be punctured and Marquez is no stranger to the canvas. In the sixth round a short Vasquez hook would send him to the seat of his trunks. From there Vasquez would unleash a furious assault, while Marquez gamely fought back off the ropes. But it was clear, this was going to be Vasquez's fight. Marquez's legs were unsteady and as he stumbled along the ropes and when he proceeded to crouch down, referee Lupe Garcia would halt the action. Some have criticized the stoppage as being premature. It says here that the stoppage was right on time and saved Marquez from further undue punishment.

    Besides, don't you want Marquez at his best when Round 14 of this trilogy begins?

    It wasn't too long ago that Vasquez was considered by pundits as just another nameless, faceless title-holder, just another guy with a belt but certainly not an elite fighter. If guys like Manny Pacquiao and Marco Antonio Barrera were A-listers, he was a character actor. You saw him on a lot of shows, but you never really knew who he was. Well, with wins over Oscar Larios (twice), Jhonny Gonzalez and now, Marquez (all in entertaining fashion) it's clear, he's no longer just a supporting player.

    In Chi-Town, the curtain would close on one of the game’s featured attractions in Erik Morales, who was valiant in coming up short in his bid for a major world title in his fourth weight class versus David Diaz. It was feared that Morales would get overrun by this Chicago Bull but instead it was 'El Terrible' playing the role of matador in sending Diaz to the floor at the end of the first round and out-boxing him over the first half of the bout.

    While it was evident that Morales' skills had diminished it was clear that his craft and guile were troubling Diaz. But unfortunately youth would be served in the second half of the fight as Diaz would crowd Morales and his fading legs were unable to hold off his charges. The reigning WBC lightweight champion would basically sweep rounds seven through 12 on all the judge’s scorecards to win the contest by the scores of 114-113, 115-113 and 115-112.

    But even in defeat, Morales was gallant. Once again in front of nearly 10,000 fans at the Allstate Arena, he gave the partisans another memorable night. It was feared that Morales was a “shot” fighter, one whose health was at risk. But not only was his health intact, so was his dignity.

    I'll never forget Morales, who announced his retirement after the Diaz fight, in the midst of perhaps his most bitter defeat on Thanksgiving weekend of 2004 against his arch-rival Barrera, stating with a sense of pride that once again, as usual, it was two Mexican fighters that put on a great fight.

    You know, he was onto something.
    im gettin sick of your threads.. take your pride level down a couple thousand notches aight? thanks

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    • TRUE WARRIOR
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      #22
      Originally posted by robjr
      im gettin sick of your threads.. take your pride level down a couple thousand notches aight? thanks
      whats wrong with being proud of the warriors from my country? it is true that boxing would be boring if not for all the mexican warriors giving the fans great fights.

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        #23
        Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!!
        whats wrong with being proud of the warriors from my country? it is true that boxing would be boring if not for all the mexican warriors giving the fans great fights.
        dude, almost all boxers are warriors, they wont be there laying their health and future on the line if they're not. it's just that each has a different style. a warrior who gets hit as often as he gives is no good and a dumb warrior at that.

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          #24
          Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!!
          this is a great article from max boxing

          Yup, you read my headline correctly.

          In an age when too many boxers act like businessmen inside the ring, when we've been so conditioned to lower the bar on what an entertaining fight is (where more and more we say ‘Well, that wasn't as rancid as we all expected’ as if somehow that makes it good) and when the sport is fighting for its share in the marketplace versus MMA – thank God for the Mexican fighters.

          I know, I know, it's politically incorrect and it may rankle some of you out there, but as Bill Belichick would say “It is what it is.”

          In this country, Mexican fighters and their fan bases are the backbone of the boxing industry. Without them this business is completely irrelevant. And just as importantly, the fights they participate in are the ones that not only retain fans but create new ones. It's them – and the little guys in general – that give us our most memorable moments.

          You can have all your “boxing matches” (a newfound euphemism for “boring”) or Quinton Jackson-Chuck Lidell. Gimme two world-class Mexican fighters doing what they do.

          And they usually do it for less money than their other colleagues for whatever reason. Maybe it's because they don't always speak fluent English and are thought of as foreigners. Perhaps they don't have the correct “advisor” for certain networks. Maybe they should act like malcontents, make outrageous financial demands and act foul and belligerent to get respect.

          But as George Lopez said about Mexican workers, they just put their head down, shut up and work harder – which was shown once again this past weekend in Hidalgo, Texas and Rosemont, Illinois (near Chicago) as a pair of promotions headlined by Mexican and Mexican-American boxers gave the sport and it's followers a fantastic night.

          Israel Vasquez and Rafael Marquez did something very difficult at the Dodge Arena. They actually raised the ante on what was one of the best fights of 2007 by putting on what has to be the front runner for 'Fight of the Year'. Rounds one through seven were outstanding, rounds eight through 13 were even better. It was violent, brutal and passionate. A beautiful combination when put into this context as Vasquez and Marquez swapped leather throughout the heated rematch.

          But the action wasn't just emotionally stunning; it also had a degree of skill and science that was breathtaking to watch. Marquez with his master skills from the outside landing hard, whistling right-crosses and body blows from in close, and Vasquez using subtle movement to close the gap and work over both sides of his opponent with a two-fisted attack. As the rounds mounted, you could see the battle scars on both men, who were cut, bloodied and bruised. Round three should be put into a time capsule as it could the most remarkable round this reporter has witnessed since the tenth frame of Diego Corrales-Jose Luis Castillo I back in 2005.

          The first encounter between the two was defined by the technical precision of Marquez from the outside. The rematch should be remembered for the will and 'want-to' of Vasquez, who had to call it a day back in March because of the condition of his nose which left him unable to breathe properly. You get the strong sense on this particular evening, you could've decapitated him and he would've kept coming all night long. While he was stung more than once from the blistering punches of Marquez, he seemed to react much better to those shots in the return bout.

          With the aid of new trainer Rudy Perez, whose stock is rising fast, Vasquez did a better job of keeping his hands up and working off the jab. But what was really key was smothering Marquez on the inside, not allowing him to unfurl his long limbs. It was here in this landscape where Vasquez was able to impose his superior size and strength on Marquez.

          Marquez, who lost for the first time in seven years, is very close to being the perfect prizefighter. But while Achilles had his heel, Marquez has his chin. Not that it's a terrible chin, but it can be punctured and Marquez is no stranger to the canvas. In the sixth round a short Vasquez hook would send him to the seat of his trunks. From there Vasquez would unleash a furious assault, while Marquez gamely fought back off the ropes. But it was clear, this was going to be Vasquez's fight. Marquez's legs were unsteady and as he stumbled along the ropes and when he proceeded to crouch down, referee Lupe Garcia would halt the action. Some have criticized the stoppage as being premature. It says here that the stoppage was right on time and saved Marquez from further undue punishment.

          Besides, don't you want Marquez at his best when Round 14 of this trilogy begins?

          It wasn't too long ago that Vasquez was considered by pundits as just another nameless, faceless title-holder, just another guy with a belt but certainly not an elite fighter. If guys like Manny Pacquiao and Marco Antonio Barrera were A-listers, he was a character actor. You saw him on a lot of shows, but you never really knew who he was. Well, with wins over Oscar Larios (twice), Jhonny Gonzalez and now, Marquez (all in entertaining fashion) it's clear, he's no longer just a supporting player.

          In Chi-Town, the curtain would close on one of the game’s featured attractions in Erik Morales, who was valiant in coming up short in his bid for a major world title in his fourth weight class versus David Diaz. It was feared that Morales would get overrun by this Chicago Bull but instead it was 'El Terrible' playing the role of matador in sending Diaz to the floor at the end of the first round and out-boxing him over the first half of the bout.

          While it was evident that Morales' skills had diminished it was clear that his craft and guile were troubling Diaz. But unfortunately youth would be served in the second half of the fight as Diaz would crowd Morales and his fading legs were unable to hold off his charges. The reigning WBC lightweight champion would basically sweep rounds seven through 12 on all the judge’s scorecards to win the contest by the scores of 114-113, 115-113 and 115-112.

          But even in defeat, Morales was gallant. Once again in front of nearly 10,000 fans at the Allstate Arena, he gave the partisans another memorable night. It was feared that Morales was a “shot” fighter, one whose health was at risk. But not only was his health intact, so was his dignity.

          I'll never forget Morales, who announced his retirement after the Diaz fight, in the midst of perhaps his most bitter defeat on Thanksgiving weekend of 2004 against his arch-rival Barrera, stating with a sense of pride that once again, as usual, it was two Mexican fighters that put on a great fight.

          You know, he was onto something.
          Alright its time to pull your hoe card... Besides De La Hoya ( Gringo Salado) is that how you spell it... Fernando Vargas ( Glass Jaw) Antonio Margarito (can't beat a boxer) what noteable mexican fighters are out there over 130 lbs... No Mexicans rule the HW's, No Mexicans rule the CW's, No Mexicans rule the LHW's, No Mexicans rule the SMW's, No Mexicans rule the MW's and on down to the rest of the weight divisions above 130... So what are you talking about... Barrera was tight, Morales was tight, Marquez is tight, but where are you guys at when the big boys step through... You are probably not even mexican, because most mexicans I know don't talk half as much ******ed **** as you do...

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          • SkillspayBills
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            #25
            Originally posted by borikua
            Pacquiao: "Thank God for Mexican fighters...They made me rich." lol
            LMAO.........point......gmae..............MATCH.

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              #26
              Originally posted by -Hyperion-
              yeah those bastards are the worst....****ing band wagoners...
              Like how they hate Oscar DLH but the moment he fought Tito Trinidad they "adopted him" and the moment he lost they threw him away again.

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                #27
                this guy and his mexican threads

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                • -Hyperion-
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                  Like how they hate Oscar DLH but the moment he fought Tito Trinidad they "adopted him" and the moment he lost they threw him away again.
                  yep, im ahuge fan of oscars because he got me into boxing, him and shane mosley....

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                    yep, im ahuge fan of oscars because he got me into boxing, him and shane mosley....

                    Yea there is no way you can't respect guys that fight the best whether they win or lose.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by borikua
                      Pacquiao: "Thank God for Mexican fighters...They made me rich." lol

                      im gonna have to agree there.

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