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Chavez had great bending and wasn't that easy to hit. When Oscar fought him, he was way past his prime. People also tend to ignore the fact that he fought Whitaker at welterweight, which was not his weight. His defence was underrated. It's a joke to compare him to Castillo and especially Campas. Hatton is a good fighter, but not in the class of Chavez.
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chavez was younger then de la hoya is now when they fought..if you put the de la hoya now vs the chavez he fought at 147, you'd get the same result
thers different levels of fighters...clubfighters average solid good great legends...there is no such thing as a legend or great fighter who has a "take 4 punches to land 1" style...chavez was solid-good fighter not great and dam sure not a legend only BOXREC geeks who are impressed by his record and probably never seen a chavez fight would call that guy a legend..he reminded me of carlos baldomir but more offensive minded.
frankie randall wasnt even that good and he beat chavez, and chavez was in his prime when he fought randall..alot of mexican fighters turn pro as teenager, this guy had not lost a step when he fought randall and randall was like a notch under zab judah, thats the pathetic thing about itComment
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funny, i have 7 chavez fights downloaded on my pc right now...plus i can remember when he fought, i'll admit i didnt see the majority of his fights when he fought bums in mexico, but i saw all his "key fights" and he wasnt that great...in the tszyu match he was past his prime, although i doubt he could beat tszyu in his prime, but de la hoya cleary showed with a boxer on his toes can do to a SLOW, LUMBERING, CALCULATED "TAKE 4 TO LAND 1" could do.
LEGENDS and GREATS, can move thru weights capturing titles, chavez couldnt do that..he's nothing more then yory boy campas with a superficial recordLast edited by dino; 08-07-2007, 09:28 AM.Comment
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i agree his record isnt spectacular because he lost to the best, however as iv said watch his fights in his prime and you cannot say he wasnt special, even in the taylor fight(one of my favorite fights of all time)he shows what he could do in his prime at his best weight...Comment
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yes, so be careful who you call an 'animal' and a 'legend' because animals are animals in different weight divisions..chavez only moved up 2 weight divisions, if he moved too 154 from 135 ala duran mayweather mosley thats one thing, he lost to randall at 140, and randall was a solid fighterLast edited by dino; 08-07-2007, 10:16 AM.Comment
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he is a champion in 3 weight classes man, when he moved up to welterweight is when he slowed down significantly and his style is no good if his blocking parrying speed isnt there, duran was better in everything chavez did and a little bigger, but duran is in a class of his own, in fact the next best thing to roberto duran is julio cesar chavez and as someona has said, a legend can be beat by an avarage fighter...
in fact his prime neded in the whitaker fight, when he moved up in weight and that is, i think his only real loss in his prime, the taylor fight is debatable....
but chavez koed greg haugen, whose only loses were decisions to whitaker and prime pazienza(1-2 against him) and camacho(close as **** fight)(1-1), rosario, mayweather, ramirez and taylor were the only other big names out there apart of whitaker and he beat them....Comment
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"based on a few years of predictions and analysts, im at the top of the food chain on this forum"-dino
Nope, thats not true, you get almsot every fight wrong. You jsut cry and say that the judges robbed the guy you picked...Comment
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your an *******, you've been apart of this forum for a few months, you dont even know what your talking about..a few of my predictions was...raheem would beat morales EASILY..i said hatton would beat tszyu when nobody even knew who hatton was!, i said forest would beat mosley because he's too tall..i said wright would beat mosley..i said wright would beat trinidad because trinidad is 1 dimensional, i said taylor would beat hopkins one day when nobody knew who taylor was..and the list goes onComment
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