so what has kelly pavilak done to convince you that he'll beat jermain taylor???

[kayjay]

You guys have overrated Pavlik for beating an Overrated Miranda.

Miranda is nothing special, Taylor is.

That was not The first time Miranda Got knocked out.

Taylor will beat Pavlik. Mark my words

Pavlik is a good fighter but i dont think he can beat Taylor.

Miranda had already been seriously outclassed by Abraham. All you can say about Pavlik fairly now is that he's a top three MW behind Abraham and Taylor.

[mr.anthrax]

Uh... Perhaps the question should be... What has Jermain Taylor done to make you believe that he can defeat Kelly Pavlik? That sounds more logical to me.

[passdabutter]

Uh... Perhaps the question should be... What has Jermain Taylor done to make you believe that he can defeat Kelly Pavlik? That sounds more logical to me.

thats cute

if only you could back up that statement with some facts....

[mr.anthrax]

thats cute

if only you could back up that statement with some facts....

Well, I thought we were all talking based on our opinions in this thread. You always speak in terms of facts, and never state an opinion in any thread? Interesting.

[deuce_drop]

what i think pavlik has that will help him in his fight and maybe lead him to a victory is his hunger, i think he's the hungrier fighter and i think his pressure will be more effective for him against taylor. pavlik is a very intelligent fighter and although he might not be the bigger fighter, he is one of the biggest guys that taylor has faced. taylor has made a career and built a good record fighting guys his whole career that were smaller than him. pavlik on the other hand has fought guys that were middleweights and or super middleweights with the occasional jr middleweight here and there.

regardless of what people think about either fighter, this fight is a great match up and a fight that should be exciting. neither guy is a slouch but i personally think that taylor sint looking forward to fighting pavlik and i think he's underestimating pavlik a bit.

this is a fight that pavlik has wanted and has fought his ass off to get and i think once he gets into the ring he's going to go for the gold and give taylor one hell of a fight.

there are a lot of flaws in taylors game, same with pavlik, kelly has flaws too, but one thing about pavlik is that he puts together a great game plan and goes to expose the flaws, taylor seems to come into the ring with the same game plan every time.

who ever dictates the pace and who ever makes the effort to control the fight is going to win, and at this point is both these guys career i give the edge to pavlik............pavlik by UD..........in FOTY........

[passdabutter]

Well, I thought we were all talking based on our opinions in this thread. You always speak in terms of facts, and never state an opinion in any thread? Interesting.

ya but the way you stated it

it made no sense to talk about this fight that way
at all


jermaine is still the champ hes the one with the respect pavlik has to try to take it from him

not the other way around

[restless_438]

You guys have overrated Pavlik for beating an Overrated Miranda.

Miranda is nothing special, Taylor is.

That was not The first time Miranda Got knocked out.

Taylor will beat Pavlik. Mark my words

Pavlik is a good fighter but i dont think he can beat Taylor.

Actually this is long overdue and is going back to when Taylor fought Hopkins for the 1st time and people like you overrated Jermain Taylor...

Most people have been looking at Pavlik since way before his victory over Edison Miranda, he's not something new, he's a fighter who's learned and improved after every fight he's been in recently..

[phallus]

no... it actually WAS the first time Miranda got knocked out, or even really hurt for that matter. And hes only been down once in his entire career prior to that fight.

He beat plenty of really good fighters. Miranda is, and will always be, a very good fighter, nothing more and nothing less. Howard Easman, Willie Gibbs, and Allan green were all victims, 2 of the 3 were knock out victims and Green was almost one himself. All very good fighters.

Even the Abraham decision loss was VERY controversial, with 5 points being deducted total.

Nobody saw that dominating performance coming, and Pavlik really put on a show with that performance.

It takes a real hunger and grit to go out there and fight the fight he fought. Miranda was probably the most feared middleweight in the world going into that fight, and Pavlik laid him out

He is big, he can punch hard, often and from many angles. And he is also white.

Taylor is as good as dead in my opinion

pavlik has never needed gift decisons from the judges to win his fights, taylor's biggest wins have come from gift decisions - except taylor - hops 2, taylor actually won that fight, but at the slimmest of margins. pavlik was expected to lose against miranda, and he DOMINATED him, there was never a single moment of any round that pavlik lost. everyone that fights pavlik gets the same treatment, thy get beaten up and then knocked the **** out. taylor needed the judges help to beat an OLD hopkins, a young kelly pavlik will knock taylor the **** out

[Matt Marvelous]

He hasn't done **** to convince me that he'll beat Taylor. Taylor isn't scared of a lumbering bully with no defense. Still will be a good fight though.

TAYLOR by UD

[WHB3]

Pavlik's hungry. Taylor isn't.

Taylor's making excuses already. Pavlik isn't.

Pavlik's looked impressive this year. Taylor hasn't in the least.