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  • #41
    I don't want to sound ****ed up but do some of you wish holy gets hurt really bad so he quits for good.

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    • #42
      i wont be watching any of his future fights...every time i hear about him now i wince at the thought of the damage he is inflicting upon himself.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by duffgun View Post
        wtf i hope this is not true what is chageav up to.
        someone gave him some money to step down

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        • #44
          I give Holyfield the edge here, but this will only lead to further punishment for him.

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          • #45
            Oh well, these things happen time to time, rooting for Holyfield, man if he wins that would be the real deal...

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            • #46
              Chagaev is a joke and he backed off because he is a coward... People are afraid of Sultan. Just like Shannon Briggs was, Sultan has a great trainer right now. And if it's true that Sultans going to fight Holyfield. Then Sultan wins, I will bet all my points Sultan puts holyfield into retirement once and for all.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by EliteSoldier View Post
                Chagaev is a joke and he backed off because he is a coward... People are afraid of Sultan. Just like Shannon Briggs was, Sultan has a great trainer right now. And if it's true that Sultans going to fight Holyfield. Then Sultan wins, I will bet all my points Sultan puts holyfield into retirement once and for all.
                I knew you'd say that, because you're the king of the overreaction and quick judgment.

                There are a few possibilities here:

                1. Chagaev got a step-aside payday (Gunstar's theory)
                2. Klitschko's people talked to Chagaev (I think Soprano said this)
                3. He has a legitimate medical issue (what the ARTICLE says)


                But the dummies on a boxing forum are going to say he's "scared." This guy has been in the ring with better fighters than Ibragimov. And he beat Ibragimov in the ams. Why the **** would he be afraid of becoming unified champ and setting up a PPV-type fight with Klitschko?

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                • #48
                  Warrior mentality

                  I would suggest those of you with not so many flattering words for Holyfield rethink your positions upon further reflection. Given the current state of the heavyweight division, Evander's chances of actually accomplishing his goal to unify the "big man's crown" is rather ripe for the picking. Not only is he still in phenomenal shape but he has more boxing knowledge in one of his fists than the entire crop of current heavyweights have in their whole bodies combined at this pt. With his mental toughness, boxing ability, & experience, I'd give him a fighter's chance w/ any of the current 'champs' including Wlad. Ive seen the four fights he's had since coming out of exile and Im convinced the shoulder injuries definitely played a role in his last 3 or 4 lackluster / poor performances (the last being against donald). He's moving well, he's throwing good combinations, and he appears fit & rested. The hand speed isn't what it used to be and the reflexes have slowed as well, but given the skill set of the current heavyweight champs versus the illustrious fighters he's already faced, I'd definitely feel he'll be more than competitive in this fight. Imbragimov better realize he won't be fighting a numb-nutt like shannon briggs this time. Can anybody say....."and new wbo heavyweight champ of the wooorrrld".

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by GranTorino View Post
                    Okay,


                    1. Why does Holyfield deserve a title shot?


                    2. Anyone else curious as to why Valuev has been so quiet lately? Seems that after this news, he'd perk right up.
                    1. $$$ that's why. All his fights are PPV. This fight will generate more money than fighting any other HW (yes, even a unification with Wlad)
                    Why not give Holy a shot. A fight with a 43 year old for most money? Sounds like a plan

                    2. Isn't he fighting
                    2007-09-29Jean-Francois Bergeron27 (19) - 0 (0) - 0
                    EWE-Arena, Oldenburg, Germany12

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Hitman88 View Post
                      I would suggest those of you with not so many flattering words for Holyfield rethink your positions upon further reflection. Given the current state of the heavyweight division, Evander's chances of actually accomplishing his goal to unify the "big man's crown" is rather ripe for the picking. Not only is he still in phenomenal shape but he has more boxing knowledge in one of his fists than the entire crop of current heavyweights have in their whole bodies combined at this pt. With his mental toughness, boxing ability, & experience, I'd give him a fighter's chance w/ any of the current 'champs' including Wlad. Ive seen the four fights he's had since coming out of exile and Im convinced the shoulder injuries definitely played a role in his last 3 or 4 lackluster / poor performances (the last being against donald). He's moving well, he's throwing good combinations, and he appears fit & rested. The hand speed isn't what it used to be and the reflexes have slowed as well, but given the skill set of the current heavyweight champs versus the illustrious fighters he's already faced, I'd definitely feel he'll be more than competitive in this fight. Imbragimov better realize he won't be fighting a numb-nutt like shannon briggs this time. Can anybody say....."and new wbo heavyweight champ of the wooorrrld".
                      I stopped reading after the bolded. Holyfield has zero chance of unifying the HW division, though the idiots who said Toney would do it are gonna give him a shot.

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