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  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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    #91
    From Hatton's Own Mouth

    Originally posted by aljon
    Ricky has 10X more class than Mayweather, even when Ricky talks "****", he doesn't throw any insults, saying someone has a boring style is talking ****? Mayweather calls his opponents names and is disrespectful..
    I hear Mayweather talking in 3rd person about himself then switching to 1st person, lol **** cracks me up everytime I hear it, trying too hard..



    But Hatton knows just how difficult it will be to defeat the Pretty Boy. "He's got amazing skills," Hatton admitted. "He's pound-for-pound the best in the world, he's great to watch, skilful, lightning fast, I always watch his fights. But I don't think he's the biggest fighter in the world. I don't think he's got much physical strength. When I went to see him fight Gatti, I saw him at the weigh-in and asked myself the question whether or not he was big enough or tough enough to hold me off for 12 rounds. And that'll be the big question once the fight comes along."

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      #92
      Originally posted by kayjay
      That's bull**** Asian. You think Floyd has "the creativity to sell tickets"? He's one of the best athletes in the world, but yet no one likes him even in his own sport. He's the biggest marketing failure in sports, whereas Hatton is not nearly as good a fighter, but has many many more and more devoted fans.
      Here is a quote from my new article on Mayweather, in which I got the perspective of Mike Marley which was thought-provoking.

      Floyd's constant battle for respect hit a snag when, before the Carlos Baldomir fight, he claimed to be the superior of "Sugar" Ray Robinson, the generally-accepted pick for greatest boxer of all time.

      "He was out of line when he said that," Marley says. "We all made fun of it from the TV, but it's better than Mr. Humble Pie with the 'I do my talking in the ring' lines. He likes to provoke and stimulate. I don't think he believes half of what he says about himself. You're not always gonna like what he says, but you have to admit he's never dull."

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        #93
        Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
        http://www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=17418

        But Hatton knows just how difficult it will be to defeat the Pretty Boy. "He's got amazing skills," Hatton admitted. "He's pound-for-pound the best in the world, he's great to watch, skilful, lightning fast, I always watch his fights. But I don't think he's the biggest fighter in the world. I don't think he's got much physical strength. When I went to see him fight Gatti, I saw him at the weigh-in and asked myself the question whether or not he was big enough or tough enough to hold me off for 12 rounds. And that'll be the big question once the fight comes along."
        He has said Mayweather has a borig style before, guess he's contradicting himself, still not talking **** though, just being respectful...

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          #94
          Originally posted by aljon
          He has said Mayweather has a borig style before, guess he's contradicting himself, still not talking **** though, just being respectful...
          Arturo Gatti had some exciting fights. He didn't fare that well. I am just trying to state my honest opinion, which is that if I was promoting/managing/training/or matchmaking Ricky Hatton, I would stay as far away from Floyd Mayweather Jr as possible. The fight would look like Larry Holmes-Tex Cobb.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Asian Sensation
            Here is a quote from my new article on Mayweather, in which I got the perspective of Mike Marley which was thought-provoking.

            Floyd's constant battle for respect hit a snag when, before the Carlos Baldomir fight, he claimed to be the superior of "Sugar" Ray Robinson, the generally-accepted pick for greatest boxer of all time.

            "He was out of line when he said that," Marley says. "We all made fun of it from the TV, but it's better than Mr. Humble Pie with the 'I do my talking in the ring' lines. He likes to provoke and stimulate. I don't think he believes half of what he says about himself. You're not always gonna like what he says, but you have to admit he's never dull."
            OK Ryan, but you have to give the public credit at times. Jokers on here often react to childish behavior by calling it 'charisma' or saying it's 'selling tickets'. Immaturity doesn't sell tickets. It appeals only to teenagers and people with substandard IQs. I'm not trying to flame because I like Mayweather as a fighter, but that's the only market he's succeeded in. Your avaerag Joe with money to spend on entertainment does not want to listen to someone like him.

            Marketing successes in sports:

            Michael Jordan, Oscar De La Hoya, Tiger Woods, Derek Jeter


            Is Mayweather a good enough athlete to be in this class? Certainly. Does he have the charm and personality? Not at all. He'll never appeal to anyone other than the crowd he already has (mentioned above). I wish that weren;t the case, so I could talk about him with fans who happen to be reasonable adults, but there are none such. This board is partial proof of my claim.


            Edit: you two or three Mayweather fans who don't fit this characterization, I apologize, you know I don;t mean you. but you also know I'm right about Floyd and his fans

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              #96
              Originally posted by aljon
              He has said Mayweather has a borig style before, guess he's contradicting himself, still not talking **** though, just being respectful...
              My point is that he says in one media outlet "I love to watch Mayweather". And then he gets on TV and says "His fights are boring".

              Soooo, he was talking **** when he made that statement after the Castillo fight. He is no different than PBF.

              Mayweather haters: Please tell me the "boring fights" Mayweather had at his natural weights. Please tell me when he "ran". Thanks in advance.

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                #97
                Originally posted by kayjay

                Marketing successes in sports:

                Michael Jordan, Oscar De La Hoya, Tiger Woods, Derek Jeter


                Is Mayweather a good enough athlete to be in this class? Certainly. Does he have the charm and personality? Not at all.
                kayjay,

                I think you are partially right. And I respect what you said.

                Mayweather, however, will make more MONEY than everybody but the very top-level of athletic earners. And, at the end of the day, I think that is what he REALLY cares about.

                ALSO, those guys you mentioned above are very bland, and controlled by their corporate sponsors. In essence, they are "fake" by design. Probably not Jeter. He seems like he really is that way.

                To Floyd, he doesn't want to be that way. You may remember that is the first thing he said at the press conference. "I had to lay back until I got the contracts signed. But now I could be me". He is part of the hip-hop culture. And they largely have rebelled against being the corporate lackeys.

                But me? Given the choice between being Ronaldinho and being David Beckham, I'll take the buck teeth and the ill skills.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                  When someone says "I do my talking in the ring", that's just them saying that they really don't have anything clever to say.
                  hatton is a humble guy soming from a close knit family. he is very polite and wouldn't disrespect someone in a way that is untruthful. if you get to see him at interviews or documentaries then it's clear that because of his fairly hard up bringing (low income family i think), it has turned him into a decent guy.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                    Arturo Gatti had some exciting fights. He didn't fare that well. I am just trying to state my honest opinion, which is that if I was promoting/managing/training/or matchmaking Ricky Hatton, I would stay as far away from Floyd Mayweather Jr as possible. The fight would look like Larry Holmes-Tex Cobb.
                    hatton has admitte yweather is the ebst in the world. the p4p's best. he may lose, but atleast he is taking the opportunity to fight someone he respects as a classy boxer. you can't fault him for trying his best to get the fight and doing it. they both want it so let the world have it. every boxer goes in the ring because they enjoy what they do. to do it agaisnt the best must be a pleasure even if your face may look ****ed up afterwards.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                      kayjay,

                      I think you are partially right. And I respect what you said.

                      Mayweather, however, will make more MONEY than everybody but the very top-level of athletic earners. And, at the end of the day, I think that is what he REALLY cares about.

                      ALSO, those guys you mentioned above are very bland, and controlled by their corporate sponsors. In essence, they are "fake" by design. Probably not Jeter. He seems like he really is that way.

                      To Floyd, he doesn't want to be that way. You may remember that is the first thing he said at the press conference. "I had to lay back until I got the contracts signed. But now I could be me". He is part of the hip-hop culture. And they largely have rebelled against being the corporate lackeys.

                      But me? Given the choice between being Ronaldinho and being David Beckham, I'll take the buck teeth and the ill skills.


                      I can respect the last two points. If maintaining character rather the "selling out" is what an athlete wants, then more power to him. A few examples of guys who have done this:

                      Allen Iverson, Rasheed Wallace, Joe Calzaghe, Tim Duncan

                      These are different kinds of personalities, but what they have in common is that superstardom hasn't seemed to change them, and they thus haven't made the endorsement money of the guys on the other list.

                      But Mayweather fans seem to be conflicted. Is the way he acts just the way he is, and he doesn't care about image? Then fine. He's a bit of a brat but mildly amusing.

                      Or, is it all an act to sell tickets?

                      If the latter is the case, it's not a good act. His marketability relative to his talent is not very high. He's the best in the sport, but his drawing power is nowhere near the top.

                      A lot of Floyd fans say "it's all business, the only thing that matters is $$$." If that's the case, Oscar kills Mayweather, so much so that they don't belong in the same sentence.

                      Guys have to make up their minds.

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