Graham :weight not a problem

[OptimusWolf]

Great thread guys - maybe I was wrong about Hatton v Collazo. I know that when I saw him I thought he looked sluggish, but that may have been due to his binging and not Kayes attempts to add bulk.

I actually agree somewhat with DLT that Collazo and co are bigger men than Hatton and he was always going to struggle to push them around. I don't think he will have that problem with Floyd, but who knows, perhaps Floyd is stronger, but he never appeared particularly strong at LW, never mind WW.

His problem with Floyd will be getting inside without getting his face butchered!

[squealpiggy]

His problem ... will be getting inside without getting his face butchered!

Sounds like my wedding night...

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Hatton "from range"??

He could have some success from the outside but working from there shoudn't be a significant part of his game plan.

Hatton has some good shot improvisation and I think he'll get a fair bit of success with his jab/uppercut hybrid from range. Uncertainty over whether he's going to double or triple up on the left hook should also keep Floyd a bit shy of using his counter right.

Mayweather is drooling at the thought of hatton trying to jab from range.

Isn't Floyd's right hand MUCH faster and more accurate than Ricky's multiple hooks?

I mean, I saw PBF hitting Zab Judah and Oscar (two fast fighters) pretty consistently with that right hand. Oscar has one of the best LH's in the sport. It was a non-factor in their fight. What am I missing? Floyd isn't Fernando Vargas. El Feroz gets hit with ANY LH that is thrown.


It would seem to me that Hatton would be the one to become reluctant to throw after eating some laser counter rights.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Great thread guys - maybe I was wrong about Hatton v Collazo. I know that when I saw him I thought he looked sluggish, but that may have been due to his binging and not Kayes attempts to add bulk.

I actually agree somewhat with DLT that Collazo and co are bigger men than Hatton and he was always going to struggle to push them around. I don't think he will have that problem with Floyd, but who knows, perhaps Floyd is stronger, but he never appeared particularly strong at LW, never mind WW.

His problem with Floyd will be getting inside without getting his face butchered!

I think people are remembering the Floyd that was moving up quickly through a few weight divisions.

He is 30 now, and has been at WW for two years. His body has matured. He has been fighting men MUCH bigger and stronger than Hatton is. PBF is a fitness and conditioning freak. In case you forgot, this is how Floyd's body looks now:

http://www.kocorner.com/media/20070505_mayweather_delahoya_01.jpg

Ricky won't be shoving PBF around.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I think he has gotten stronger

Great thread guys - maybe I was wrong about Hatton v Collazo. I know that when I saw him I thought he looked sluggish, but that may have been due to his binging and not Kayes attempts to add bulk.

I actually agree somewhat with DLT that Collazo and co are bigger men than Hatton and he was always going to struggle to push them around. I don't think he will have that problem with Floyd, but who knows, perhaps Floyd is stronger, but he never appeared particularly strong at LW, never mind WW.His problem with Floyd will be getting inside without getting his face butchered!

PBF FOR THE GATTI FIGHT:

http://www.toprank.com/photo_gallery/may_28_2005/images/Floyd-Mayweather_2.jpg

PBF FOR THE DELAHOYA FIGHT:

http://delivery.viewimages.com/xv/74077750.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1932BBB80AB57C976020CCF59D23232AD2809001C2248ACDF54

[Cletus Funk]

Mayweather is drooling at the thought of hatton trying to jab from range.

Isn't Floyd's right hand MUCH faster and more accurate than Ricky's multiple hooks?

I mean, I saw PBF hitting Zab Judah and Oscar (two fast fighters) pretty consistently with that right hand. Oscar has one of the best LH's in the sport. It was a non-factor in their fight. What am I missing? Floyd isn't Fernando Vargas. El Feroz gets hit with ANY LH that is thrown.


It would seem to me that Hatton would be the one to become reluctant to throw after eating some laser counter rights.

No, no, no and no.

The way Floyd's D is set leaves a lovely little hole for that shot.

If Floyd let's his right go in the middle of one of those combos then he's eating leather without a doubt. Oscar didn't double or triple up on the hooks.

You guys make me laugh. You've actually convinced yourselves that Floyd has mythical powers. Good luck with that.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

No, no, no and no.

The way Floyd's D is set leaves a lovely little hole for that shot.

If Floyd let's his right go in the middle of one of those combos then he's eating leather without a doubt. Oscar didn't double or triple up on the hooks.

You guys make me laugh. You've actually convinced yourselves that Floyd has mythical powers. Good luck with that.

Cletus,

Please point to the statement in my post that alludes to anything that can be interpreted as 'mythical powers".

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Today's Boxing Talk

Great thread guys - maybe I was wrong about Hatton v Collazo. I know that when I saw him I thought he looked sluggish, but that may have been due to his binging and not Kayes attempts to add bulk.

I actually agree somewhat with DLT that Collazo and co are bigger men than Hatton and he was always going to struggle to push them around. I don't think he will have that problem with Floyd, but who knows, perhaps Floyd is stronger, but he never appeared particularly strong at LW, never mind WW.

His problem with Floyd will be getting inside without getting his face butchered!

Love your column, love the site. Regarding the Mayweather-Hatton fight, I have been reading various columns (and Internet fan site postings) that this will be a speed vs. strength matchup. However, I don't see this bout going that way at all. Floyd has spent the past year sparring and fighting much bigger and stronger men than Hatton. Fights with Baldomir and Delahoya. Countless rounds sparred vs Daniel Edouard and Kofi Jantuah. In sum, Lil' Floyd ain't so Lil' any more. After all that ring time with legitimate JMW's and MW's, I can not envision a scenario where Hatton will have enough strength to throw Floyd off his game. And if Ricky can't muscle and maul Floyd, what is Hatton's Plan B? Late in the Collazo fight, Luis was controlling Ricky. I do not think that Collazo would have been able to get physical with PBF. Fatigued or not. My question is two-fold: Can Ricky's swarming, brawling style succeed vs PBF at 147? And if not, How does Hatton keep the fight from becoming Gatti-esque? Cheers! Bernardo

Leon's Response: I expect Mayweather to win the fight impressively. Other than the ever present possibility of someone catching Mayweather with a homerun, it's tough for me to see Mayweather losing to Hatton or anyone else for that matter. Floyd was sparring super middleweights when he was preparing for Baldomir. I've seen him stop of couple of them with my own eyes. Not one punch stoppages, he didn't even knock any of them down, he's just tortured them. Ricky's swarming style can be effective with the right referee, if not Hatton will have his work cut out for him to prevent the fight from becoming a showcase for Mayweather's speed.

[Cletus Funk]

Cletus,

Please point to the statement in my post that alludes to anything that can be interpreted as 'mythical powers".

You alluded that Floyd could let his right go and bring it back to guard in the fraction of a second between Hatton's double or triple hooks and read whether he'll switch up or downstairs on top of that. Come on, man.

Or you were just talking about Floyd getting off 1st?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

You alluded that Floyd could let his right go and bring it back to guard in the fraction of a second between Hatton's double or triple hooks and read whether he'll switch up or downstairs on top of that. Come on, man.

Or you were just talking about Floyd getting off 1st?

Think about what YOU are saying. YOU are saying that Hatton can get two or three HOOKS off faster than PBF can shoot a straight right hand.

Think about that.