Who did the MOST with there Talent?

[Run]

Roy.

He's in my opinion just a flat out better athlete and specimen than most if not all fighters in the history of boxing. He exploited that and rightfully so.



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[Left2body]

I wouldn't say RJJ for a couple of reasons. First off his talent level was still at a level above 99% of anyone near his weight. However he lost and hasn't been half as competitive due to his huge reliance on talent.

RJJ depended too much on near super human reflexes to dodge and avoid punches by hair thin margins. Once he lost that SLIGHT fraction he wasn't able to compete on the same level because he wasn't technically sound.

If RJJ had coupled technique and skill with talent he would've still been the #1 p4p champion. RJJ beat guys he was more talented/athletic than. I think he could've juiced his still great talent for many more years if he had the dedication of perfecting his craft the way JT, Hops and PBF.

[EMPOROAR]

Roy.

He's in my opinion just a flat out better athlete and specimen than most if not all fighters in the history of boxing. He exploited that and rightfully so.

I agree. This guy is the greatest natural athlete the sport has ever seen. He was able to combine his natural athleticism with great boxing technique. he didnt have great footwork, he wasnt orthodox in his defensive movements but he knew the ins and outs of the game. he was a natural and just had a great feel for the sport. Alot like Calzaghe who doesn't box with great fundamentals but has great fluidity and athleticsm.

[Run]

I agree. This guy is the greatest natural athlete the sport has ever seen.

Yeah maybe the greatest Athlete in an athletic sense I've ever seen. However Ali, Jordan, Lance Armstrong are all up there to an extent for sure.

But I'd lean towards Roy.



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[EMPOROAR]

Yeah maybe the greatest Athlete in an athletic sense I've ever seen. However Ali, Jordan, Lance Armstrong are all up there to an extent for sure.

But I'd lean towards Roy.

Or Barry Sanders. I would lean towards Jordan but Roy is close behind.

[EMPOROAR]

Believe it or not, I think Kevin Randleman is an incredibly gifted athlete. The **** he does is unbelievable.

[Njord777]

It's already been said in this thread- and I have to agree- Arturo Gatti. Not the fastest guy, not possessing the best defense, not having the most amazing footwork - but with a decent punch for junior welterweight and likewise decent reflexes. He made the most out of the boxing skills he had and, with probably his biggest attributes - toughness and heart- threw himself across the finish line time and again. Gatti won battles through sweat and blood, pure old fashion desire - and when a fighter's number one quality has nothing to do with his actual boxing skills, and he still gets as far as Gatti did, well that's making the most out what he did have.

[Run]

Or Barry Sanders. I would lean towards Jordan but Roy is close behind.

Roy sticking his head out with his hands to his sides, getting out of the way right when the punch was thrown no matter how straight to the target it was, or how fast they threw it just defied all. And him taunting Kelley was just flat out ridiculous. That's the supreme of all.

Someone putting their hands behind their damn back in a boxing match. LMFAO. People always are quick to point to him "fighting bums" but I always said it's just how he made them look like bums. None of those guys were damn slouches........NONE. Of course you throw in the tuneup Pazienza type who wasn't a bum himself, just made to look terrible because he was completely outgunned by Roy.

And just to refresh everyone's memory he played the same tricks with the ATG James Toney. Totally outclassed him.



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Roy sticking his head out with his hands to his sides, getting out of the way right when the punch was thrown no matter how straight to the target it was, or how fast they threw it just defied all. And him taunting Kelley was just flat out ridiculous. That's the supreme of all.

Someone putting their hands behind their damn back in a boxing match. LMFAO. People always are quick to point to him "fighting bums" but I always said it's just how he made them look like bums. None of those guys were damn slouches........NONE. Of course you throw in the tuneup Pazienza type who wasn't a bum himself, just made to look terrible because he was completely outgunned by Roy.

And just to refresh everyone's memory he played the same tricks with the ATG James Toney. Totally outclassed him.

I mean guys like Telesco, Kelley, these guys werent' all that. I take your points though.

[Ramamaiden]

what about corrales....i dont think he was that talented, but his great heart made him the great fighter he was