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Originally posted by grayfist
Giving credit where credit is due, Marquez is one of the best counter-punchers that has emerged in recent years; his record speaks eloquently of how much power is behind those counter-punches. Having said that, let me quickly add that counter-punchers throughout the ages ply their trade on the basis of one dictum: "let the opponent bring the action to me." That being so, they focus on how and where they can hit their on-coming foe and less on avoiding the punches the foe is throwing. Marquez's continually bleeding nose in Pacquiao-Marquez, the three knockdowns in one round in the same fight, and the lump under Marquez's eye in Marquez-Salido are recent testimonials that not only can Marquez be hit, he can be hit BIG! The Pac knockdowns were not Marquez's firsts; he fell to lesser foes, previously. It is from these knockdowns that the legend of Marquez's great recuperative powers has been woven. He came back each time he fell, not the least of which were those in the Pacquiao fight. But what if Marquez gets hit by a real whammy! Pacquiao through much of each of rounds in their meeting devoted his efforts on doing that but never got to doing it. Salido, like Medina, Gainer and others, before them, doesn't have enough power to even merely contemplate the possibility of doing that. Nonetheless, Salido showed how to open Marquez up: not the way Manny tried to do it-- setting up with a light jab for a left straight for which Marquez with his ring experience easily wises up to-- but to dish out a plethora of punches that not only takes Marquez out of any counter-punching rhythm but put Marquez back on his heels. Counter-punchers do not punch effectively while backing up, with the exception of Ali whenever he went on a counter-punching mode in his prime. Barrera is also one of the best counter-punchers. But when he was taken off his rhythm and overwhelmed by Pacman's punches, he cracked. Notice how he insisted to the ringside doc that the fight should be stopped because of his cut? First time ever I saw Barrera craving to get out of the ring fast! His mind was scanning for excuses-- "honorable" ways out-- instead of solving the pressing Pacquiao problem he was facing. Barrera had brain surgery in 1997; was this why he was worried and wanted that quick, albeit, "honorable" exit? Whatever the reason, the fight showed that Pacquiao's hand speed, footwork quickness, menu of punches (if he uses it instead of relying too much on a jab-straight combo) and power, combined, can mean "lights out!" for an excellent counter-puncher such as Marquez, as they meant to Barrera. As for Morales, of the three M's, he has the best jab and he is not shy about using it extensively and well when opportunity presents itself. Barrera's jab which he used against Hamed went on leave in the Pacquiao fight. Marquez just waited for the chance to counter. Will Morales jab Pacquiao silly before dishing out his best? If he does can Paquiao get past the Morales jab? He'll try, I'm sure; but can he? The jab can be what would dictate the character of the fight. Maybe Manny should replace that often pawing jab of his with something a bit more telling. As for defense, Manny showed in the Barrera fight that he can shoulder roll; not as well as the best exponents of that skill but well enough. With Marquez, that shoulder roll was invisible. Freddie Roach is in for some real work.
it seems like u think i was taken credit from marquez?
if anythin i defended him
his style works altho many people felt he should be more agressive its just not his style
all i was sayin
i was the one that brought up that the fight i watched i thouroly enjopyed watching as he hit those nice combos
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