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  • #51
    I'm not going to debate any more of these "Wlad (and his fanbase) sucks" point by point. It's ****** to discuss points with people who will most likely refuse to concede an argument even if proven to be wrong. I think it's better to just sit back and see what happens in the future, and see who's right and who isn't. I think Wlad might manage to go undefeated for the next several years, and people who start (and perpetuate) threads like this think he's a single shot away from sinking into obscurity. I'm going to wait and see who's right, rather than debate it ad nauseum.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Smokin' View Post
      All of you. I have heard comparisons to Lennox Lewis. I have heard fans say that he would beat Bowe. The list goes on.

      Wladimir is in the weakest HW division EVER. EVER.

      Lennox Lewis was far better than Klitschkois today. I give Klit credit for many things. He is making the most of his skills. He has come back from defeats, albeit against washed up fighters. (How long did it take him to rematch Brewster/Byrd?? Man Quitschko's got some real balls). He always represents himself and the game with tremendous dignity. That is what I like about him. However, he has a weak chin and not much determination that keeps him from bring a great fighter.

      Lewis was stopped twice. Both fights had similiar circumstances. Both times Lennox was overconfident, under trained and got caught with major league haymakers. The shots that took him out would have taken out 98% of the big men in history. This does not make him an iron chin but he was above average. He proved this by taking big shots from Ray Mercer, Evander Holyfield, Shannon Briggs and Frank Bruno. In all those bouts he was hit very hard by SERIOUS punchers and came back to win.

      Wladimir actually has a weak chin and only fair recooperative powers. Putting the chins aside, Lennox was faster, had a better jab, had a better uppercut and was faster and far more fluid. Lennox moved better.

      Remember kids, This is one fighter who is literally one punch away from losing any fight. He has a glass jaw.

      why is there no talk of a Sam Peter rematch ?
      There is nothing Wlad can do about his chin, but to say he is one punch away from losing any fight is retarted, he took everything Peter had to give to him and got up like a warrior and really hurt Peter to a UD. You're just showing your boxing ignorance, you're talking about someone who hardly lost any rounds in his whole career like he's trash. Wlad's all game, he's got great defense, his offense is to be feared and is smart enough to use his physical advantage, most people his size would gas in a matter of rounds and probably can't move as well. Not taking anything away from Lewis but when the hell have you seen Lewis stick and move and pop shots like Wlad does? Lewis has been up against great opposition and his resume is H.O.F material but there is no way Lewis has a better D than Wlad. Although most people disagree, Lewis had a very good chin and that's why he got careless sometimes. Today's Wlad, being #1, with his focus and determination he is a serious threat to any HW in history. Like I said Wlad makes up for his chin with his great defense and offense. He lands flush in any fighter's chin with either hand I don't care who you are you're going down. He is on top right now but for some reason ungrateful little ****s like you have to discredit someone's great accomplishments. I really can't see what more you can ask from another boxer?
      Don't even mention Sam Peter because he already lost and would get KTFO'd in a rematch..
      Last edited by aljon; 07-26-2007, 10:30 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by drvooh View Post
        Had Wlad been born here and raised here, in a low income environment he may very well be a killer by now
        Very interesting point. I always wondered if DLH would've turned out differently if he came from a poor family.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by boxing2005 View Post
          I seriously doubt that Wlad would last more than 10 rounds with young Foreman.
          That could very well be.
          If he fought george the way he gassed out vs Brewster ( 1 )..he'd last much less than 10...But if he fought a smart enough fight...who knows...
          Ali did just what you do with George..let HIM gassout...and Ali did just that

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          • #55
            Originally posted by drvooh View Post
            That could very well be.
            If he fought george the way he gassed out vs Brewster ( 1 )..he'd last much less than 10...But if he fought a smart enough fight...who knows...
            Ali did just what you do with George..let HIM gassout...and Ali did just that
            Wlad would never be able to take the amount of punishment Ali did in that fight. In fact, I don't think anybody could take the amount of punishment Ali took in that fight.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by boxing2005 View Post
              Wlad would never be able to take the amount of punishment Ali did in that fight. In fact, I don't think anybody could take the amount of punishment Ali took in that fight.
              I think more boxers can do that then you think, it's just that they'd end up with brain damage like how ali is now. And his daughter sucks and dodges any good female boxers in her weight class. Ann Wolfe would destroy Ali's daughter in a fight, thats why Ali's daughter dodged Ann Wolfe. She's a coward boxer, I really wish his daughter didn't get into the sport because she is being spoon-fed easy opponents and dodges the ones that can knock her ass out of the ring.

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              • #57
                I thought "Quitschko" was Vitali? When did Wladimir quit in a fight? Wladimir Klitschko has a ridiculous offensive arsenal, which is why he's the number 1 heavyweight right now. What will Peter do in a rematch? He'll probably do the same, and likely floor Klitschko, but he won't be able to take the entire onslaught like last time, and will get KO'd late in spite of scoring an early knockdown.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by GodzHand View Post
                  I thought "Quitschko" was Vitali? When did Wladimir quit in a fight? Wladimir Klitschko has a ridiculous offensive arsenal, which is why he's the number 1 heavyweight right now. What will Peter do in a rematch? He'll probably do the same, and likely floor Klitschko, but he won't be able to take the entire onslaught like last time, and will get KO'd late in spite of scoring an early knockdown.

                  Peter NEVER FLOORED Wlad. He was credited with two KD"s when he shouldn't have been, even George Foreman said as much. He was pushed down. Not knocked down.

                  Wlad's chin is as good as any hw's out there. Probably better. He took Peter's best left hook, his money punch, in the third round of their fight, the same one that KTFO'd Jeremy Williams, and shook it off. He did not go down.

                  People with glass chins go down when Sam Peter nails them. Wlad did not.

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