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  • #51
    Originally posted by satori555 View Post
    oh by fighter i thought you mean if mayweather had his arms tied behind his back and was blindfolded and calzaghe had a krowbar so thats why i voted for calzaghe.
    Am i the only one who finds him funny?

    He makes me laugh everytime.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by !! Anorak View Post
      **** me Jangeorg, you come up with some divergent topics don't ya, son? And why do I get the feeling you were masturbating as you wrote this?


      Schnell, schnell!


      :wank: :wank:

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      • #53
        Originally posted by jangeorg View Post
        Kessler beat Calzaghe??

        Here is that i imagine how they will look like

        The fight is on and we are in round 8 and Calzaghe has eaten kessler's straight right hand 50-100 times in seven rounds. Can you feel the Calzaghe-fans let their ringmuscles go in agonizing pain and humiliation. The cold shivering feeling spreading from the buttom of their spine, to the rest of their degenerated body, reaching their brainwashed(nutshuggers) and dilusional brain.

        When Joe lies on the canvas with spastic shivers uncontrollably shaking his legs like a vibrator*****. their eyes are glazed and unfocused. Afterwards the tears and cryin. The unfathomable reality of a complete humiliation of Calzaghe after being schooled for round after round.


        What kind of a ****head are you? Do you think that when a fighter loses, it does something to their fans other than disappoint them? Your life must be the ****s, if you have to live vicariously through a boxer, and suffer so when he loses. Sucks to be you, pal.

        Personally, if Calzaghe were to lose the fight, the most traumatic thing that'll happen to me will be the loss of a dollar bill to a guy I watch fights with and usually make a token wager of a buck.

        What the **** is it with so many people who visit this forum? I'm starting to wonder how many of you are past puberty.

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        • #54
          The bottom line here is that Calzaghe by his own admission hasn't had the career he hoped he would have had, this though takes nothing away from his undeniable talent.

          Calzaghe at his best is one of the top all round fighters on the planet, he can box on the front or back foot, has a great defence, good chin, decent power and awesome hand speed with great ability.

          If you cannot see that then you do not truly understand the sport of boxing.

          However Calzaghe prefers fighters to come on to him ala Lacy and Kessler will not do this, he will attempt to out jab and outbox Calzaghe.

          This is were it gets tricky for those posters who cannot see past their own arses, study Calzaghes record and think laterally and unbiasedly about his career and you will see that even on a poor night (hes had a few) he wins an all out boxing match with ease.

          Eubank comfortably on points (although past his best an extremely hard fighter to beat on the cards)
          Thornberry easily over 12
          Starie easily over 12
          Brewer comfortable
          Miguel Angel Jimenez easily over 12
          Kabary Salem easily points wise over 12
          Evans Ashira easily over 12
          Lacy easily over 12

          His two closest fights points wise have been Reid (he was poor but still had too much for the former WBC and WBF Champion) and Bika (which he still won by a few rounds)

          His other 11 defences he has won by stoppage.


          Therefore discredit his career if you want but he has been the Champion for 10 years now and has never really looked like losing it at anytime hence I predict him beating Kessler by about 5 rounds on a points decision.

          If he doesn't then so what? He's 35 had a good career and will eventually lose sometime if he continues to fight! I certainly wont stop posting on here.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by satori555 View Post
            oh by fighter i thought you mean if mayweather had his arms tied behind his back and was blindfolded and calzaghe had a krowbar so thats why i voted for calzaghe.
            I'd still pick Mayweather

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Stickman View Post
              What kind of a ****head are you? Do you think that when a fighter loses, it does something to their fans other than disappoint them? Your life must be the ****s, if you have to live vicariously through a boxer, and suffer so when he loses. Sucks to be you, pal.

              Personally, if Calzaghe were to lose the fight, the most traumatic thing that'll happen to me will be the loss of a dollar bill to a guy I watch fights with and usually make a token wager of a buck.

              What the **** is it with so many people who visit this forum? I'm starting to wonder how many of you are past puberty.

              If you don`t like the post,don`t read it,you ****ing ******

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              • #57
                Originally posted by MickyHatton View Post
                The bottom line here is that Calzaghe by his own admission hasn't had the career he hoped he would have had, this though takes nothing away from his undeniable talent.

                Calzaghe at his best is one of the top all round fighters on the planet, he can box on the front or back foot, has a great defence, good chin, decent power and awesome hand speed with great ability.

                If you cannot see that then you do not truly understand the sport of boxing.

                However Calzaghe prefers fighters to come on to him ala Lacy and Kessler will not do this, he will attempt to out jab and outbox Calzaghe.

                This is were it gets tricky for those posters who cannot see past their own arses, study Calzaghes record and think laterally and unbiasedly about his career and you will see that even on a poor night (hes had a few) he wins an all out boxing match with ease.

                Eubank comfortably on points (although past his best an extremely hard fighter to beat on the cards)
                Thornberry easily over 12
                Starie easily over 12
                Brewer comfortable
                Miguel Angel Jimenez easily over 12
                Kabary Salem easily points wise over 12
                Evans Ashira easily over 12
                Lacy easily over 12

                His two closest fights points wise have been Reid (he was poor but still had too much for the former WBC and WBF Champion) and Bika (which he still won by a few rounds)

                His other 11 defences he has won by stoppage.


                Therefore discredit his career if you want but he has been the Champion for 10 years now and has never really looked like losing it at anytime hence I predict him beating Kessler by about 5 rounds on a points decision.

                If he doesn't then so what? He's 35 had a good career and will eventually lose sometime if he continues to fight! I certainly wont stop posting on here.
                Thats a nice summation , now lets have a look at what your actually saying and we will go down your list from the top

                Eubanks great fighter , retired came out of retirement fought Joe with 3 weeks training and said he would have won if he of had more time , lost again and retired for good .

                Thornberrry , the great Joe C carnt stop him but Wharton and Mundine can .

                Starie , stopped by Francis , lost to Ottke lost to Thysse who was stopped by Kessler .

                Brewer , stopped by Echols who is a middleweight and beat by Ottke twice right befor Joe .

                Jimenez 6 opponets prior to Joe had 27 losses and 6 wins .

                Salem , lost to Veit fight before Joe and stopped by Bute fight after .

                Ashira is a middleweight was stopped in the 2nd by Masoe a middleweight 2 fights before Joe .

                Then we have Lacy who was built on hype and only tested agains fringe contenders .

                No one is doubting Joe is not a good fighter , but this stuff of him being elite and an all time great is rediculas , although he is undefeated he has been fighting a lot of opponets that are at most top 20 fighters with the better names being at the end of there careers when they were faded and about to retire , Ive said it before his resume is padded for the rap he gets .
                Last edited by RodBarker; 07-24-2007, 06:02 AM.

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                • #58
                  I wouldn't be THAT surprised if Joe lost to be honest. I'm picking him to win, but he's 35 now, has brittle hands, and has not got the mega payday he's been waiting for.

                  Kessler is hungry, at his physical peak, and although he is a stand up Euro style fighter, he's a lot better than the Veits of the world, and will leave nothing in the ring.

                  I think you'd be brave to pick against JoeC in a UD by 7-5 to 9-3.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
                    Thats a nice summation , now lets have a look at what your actually saying and we will go down your list from the top

                    Eubanks great fighter , retired came out of retirement fought Joe with 3 weeks training and said he would have won if he of had more time , lost again and retired for good .

                    Thornberrry , the great Joe C carnt stop him but Wharton and Mundine can .

                    Starie , stopped by Francis , lost to Ottke lost to Thysse who was stopped by Kessler .

                    Brewer , stopped by Echols who is a middleweight and beat by Ottke twice right befor Joe .

                    Jimenez 6 opponets prior to Joe had 27 losses and 6 wins .

                    Salem , lost to Veit fight before Joe and stopped by Bute fight after .

                    Ashira is a middleweight was stopped in the 2nd by Masoe a middleweight 2 fights before Joe .

                    Then we have Lacy who was built on hype and only tested agains fringe contenders .

                    No one is doubting Joe is not a good fighter , but this stuff of him being elite and an all time great is rediculas , although he is undefeated he has been fighting a lot of opponets that are at most top 20 fighters with the better names being at the end of there careers when they were faded and about to retire , Ive said it before his resume is padded for the rap he gets .
                    Where did I say his resume was great or him being elite or an all time great???

                    In fact didn't I actually say 'The bottom line here is that Calzaghe by his own admission hasn't had the career he hoped he would have had, this though takes nothing away from his undeniable talent' ?

                    Also I'm sure that I was also pointing out that his talent has allowed him to comfortably stay Champion for 10 years and that the fights were he has had to dig deep have been few and far between.

                    So by breaking down my list you have proven nothing really because I never offered the list as anything other than factual evidence that Joe had successfully defended his title 20 times and that of those times when he had to go the distance he often won very easily.

                    Also you cannot judge a fighter by how another fighter beat one of his opponents because each fight is different and styles makes fights so....?

                    The bottom line is that Calzaghe is an extremely talented fighter, one of the most talented of his generation but due to factors within his control and those outside of it he has not had the career he should have had, it doesn't mean that he hasn't got the ability because that's plain to see.

                    Besides, if Lacy wasn't the big win it was supposed to be (or was it because Lacy was so outclassed?) would a Kessler win be, or would then Kessler become a over hyped fighter simply because Calzaghe beat him?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by jangeorg View Post
                      Kessler beat Calzaghe??

                      Here is that i imagine how they will look like

                      The fight is on and we are in round 8 and Calzaghe has eaten kessler's straight right hand 50-100 times in seven rounds. Can you feel the Calzaghe-fans let their ringmuscles go in agonizing pain and humiliation. The cold shivering feeling spreading from the buttom of their spine, to the rest of their degenerated body, reaching their brainwashed(nutshuggers) and dilusional brain.

                      When Joe lies on the canvas with spastic shivers uncontrollably shaking his legs like a vibrator*****. their eyes are glazed and unfocused. Afterwards the tears and cryin. The unfathomable reality of a complete humiliation of Calzaghe after being schooled for round after round.



                      Round eight... wasn't that the round where Kessler got hurt to the body and then went:




                      Now pay me that 15000 points ya cheap bastid!

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