The Best Of James Toney

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  • Left2body
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    #21
    Its tough to say if Toney was more talented/physically gifted...........however if you look at skill wise I would say Toney was slightly more skilled than Mayweather.

    Looking at Toney fight was like looking at a virtuoso. He really looked UNNATURALLY calm and at home in the ring. His ability to slip is punches is equal to PBF but what Toney has better IMHO is that he makes you pay more when he slips your punches and he sets up his counters more than PBF who can still rely on his pure speed to slip hard leads in against most fighters.

    It really genuinely saddens me to see how much talent/skill was wasted by toney. He is great but he could've been an ATG with the discipline of B-Hop or PBF.

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    • MickyHatton
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      #22
      Originally posted by GunStar
      Mayweather can't do it at 154, he did it many times when he was fighting at 130.
      Agreed and many would say that it is clever boxing as he uses his skills to win against the bigger men but I can remember other greats like SRL and Hearns etc moving up many weights and still imposing themselves.

      Either way it works for him, its just that its like watching a Formula One car going round the track in second gear at times!

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      • GunStar
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        #23
        Originally posted by oldgringo


        Oh come on my video can't even get any love on my own site?

        nah just kidding...the other one is great too...this is just a shameless plug.
        Your video is a little shorter but still real good, I have it in my computer!

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        • Double
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          #24
          I would have to say his perfromance against Barkley was probably the best of his career.

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          • tredh
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            #25
            Originally posted by MickyHatton
            Agreed and many would say that it is clever boxing as he uses his skills to win against the bigger men but I can remember other greats like SRL and Hearns etc moving up many weights and still imposing themselves.

            Either way it works for him, its just that its like watching a Formula One car going round the track in second gear at times!
            Who did SRL impose himself on that was 10-20+ lbs heavier than him?

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            • eazy_mas
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              #26
              Originally posted by EMPOROAR
              You got that right. The reason why Mayweather is superior to everyone is because of his conditioning, not his talent. He is a train-a-holic. He is superior on an athletic level to most of his peers so there is no one as good or better then him.
              and he is smart he knows his ability and what he has and what he could do and cando and use it in the ring. people say he is running well try to catch.
              and Mayweather is better than Toney skillwise

              Originally posted by Double
              I would have to say his perfromance against Barkley was probably the best of his career.
              I though Jirove and Micheal Nunn



              anyway Toney said he never ducked anyone why didnt he fight Nigel Benn or Eubank in Britian like the G-Man did. THat guy dissed a fight who is much better than him, Thw G-Man fought p4p punchers of boxing and he is the type of fighter Toney would loose by KO even in his prime

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              • tredh
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                #27
                Originally posted by eazy_mas
                and he is smart he knows his ability and what he has and what he could do and cando and use it in the ring. people say he is running well try to catch.
                and Mayweather is better than Toney skillwise



                I though Jirove and Micheal Nunn



                anyway Toney said he never ducked anyone why didnt he fight Nigel Benn or Eubank in Britian like the G-Man did. THat guy dissed a fight who is much better than him, Thw G-Man fought p4p punchers of boxing and he is the type of fighter Toney would loose by KO even in his prime
                WHo is G-Man? I would put money on Toney not getting KO'ed he has one of the best chins ever in boxing.

                Toney has to go down as one of the best to ever do it. Those early fights in the videos is how he got the name "LIGHTS OUT"

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                • GunStar
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by eazy_mas
                  and he is smart he knows his ability and what he has and what he could do and cando and use it in the ring. people say he is running well try to catch.
                  and Mayweather is better than Toney skillwise



                  I though Jirove and Micheal Nunn



                  anyway Toney said he never ducked anyone why didnt he fight Nigel Benn or Eubank in Britian like the G-Man did.
                  THat guy dissed a fight who is much better than him, Thw G-Man fought p4p punchers of boxing and he is the type of fighter Toney would loose by KO even in his prime
                  Toney was a bigger name then Banks, Benn and G-Man, he would've eventually fought g-man, but G-man career ended right after the Benn fight, Benn and Banks both ducked Toney, they didn't want any part of Toney.

                  Roy Jones turned to god after he beat Toney, so that's how much Toney was respected!

                  Both Benn and G-Man would've lost to Toney, so you're dreaming about any of those guys stopping Toney in his prime, **** if a guys like Sam Peter and Rahman couldn't stop a fat washed up Toney, what makes you think those little guys would've stopped him.

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                  • eazy_mas
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tredh
                    WHo is G-Man? I would put money on Toney not getting KO'ed he has one of the best chins ever in boxing.

                    Toney has to go down as one of the best to ever do it. Those early fights in the videos is how he got the name "LIGHTS OUT"

                    The G-Man kick Toney ass in sparring as well as Hearns.

                    He brawled against Julian Jackson the p4p most lethal puncher and went to England to fight Nigel Benn and not Roy nor Tony ever did that

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                    • GunStar
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by eazy_mas
                      The G-Man kick Toney ass in sparring as well as Hearns.

                      He brawled against Julian Jackson the p4p most lethal puncher and went to England to fight Nigel Benn and not Roy nor Tony ever did that
                      I love the G-man but he never kicked Toney's ass in sparring, stop making up **** now.

                      Julian Jackson also ducked Toney!

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