Funny how DLH can suddenly make 147

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I also noticed how it's not all that publicized about the ring, gloves, weight class, money, venue, etc. Mayweather hardly ever talks about how much he had to sacrifice. He just knew he was a better fighter than Oscar, so that **** didn't matter. He took everything Oscar could throw at him and still clearly won the fight. I'm more impressed by that everytime I think about it. I mean it's DLH, so it's not just anybody making these demands. He's a legend in the sport and still a great fighter. I'm sick of everyone calling DLH a faded fighter. He got knocked out by Hopkins in 2004. His only other two legit losses were once to Mosley and then to Mayweather. That's an incredible resume, and he looked as good as he ever has against Mayorga. So faded my ass. Mayweather is just a better fighter when it all comes down to it.

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[MamaDuck]

Wow a lot of DLH hate going on over here...

[DiegoFuego]

Nah, I think Mayweather is just a better fighter. Point to a performance by DLH where you think he fought good enough to beat Mayweather. I'd say the Trinidad fight was arguably his best performance against an elite fighter, and he would have won 10 rounds of that one had he not taken his foot off the gas, but I still didn't see a guy that could beat Mayweather. You could take the Vargas or Mayorga fights, and I see a guy that can take a little and give back more but not a guy that could catch Mayweather often, much less win rounds off him.

[DiegoFuego]

How do you ignore members? I'm done with Anorak and his gay little crybaby friends who envy Americans.

[DiegoFuego]

Nevermind, I figured it out

[pbftxrs316]

Partially true post. Mayweather is a better boxer, yes.
Would he win if DLH was in his prime? No.
Don't tell me a guy who fights once every year, aged 34, can be considered a prime-time fighter.
He clearly had some problems with timing, accuracy, stamina and letting go.
Yes, there was another fighter in that ring as well, but that version of Oscar was in no way the same as Oscar of old.
You, me, DLH and everyone else knows this.

The rest is right on.

to claim mayweather would not have beaten de la hoya in his prime is a little shady considering many people can't figure out when de la hoya's prime really was. was it 135? this is when he had a lot of speed, but against mayweather he would be too slow still and completely outboxed. was it 140? no i don't think so seeing how he only fought 3 times in that weight class but he did beat chavez impressingly by tko and in boxing there is that rare thing that a fighter's peak in skills can be showcased in one fight enabling that fighter to go up or down but in that one fight that fighter can be in his prime, so maybe 140 could have been oscar's prime, but at 140 mayweather would have killed oscar, because he was too fast in his upperbody movement and his defense was too great for any fighter at 140 except for a southpaw like corley who was also wild but was still dominated by floyd. oscar used his jab a lot in his lower weight classes but floyd used his jab a lot also as well as his lead right hand which was very fast and accurate and his left hook which would have tagged oscar seeing how oscar's defense was shady and is still shady. do you think oscar would have been able to land his left hook effectively on floyd? mannnnnn pleeeeaaasssee. floyd was very fast on the defensive end at lower weight classes. now, how about 147? maybe this was his prime seeing how he defeated whitaker, chavez in the rematch, gatti, lost to trinidad but many felt he won, lost to mosley but showed a lot of skill. i think many would agree that this was his prime? but at 147, mayweather fought only 3 times against a judah, baldomir, and mitchell who moved up also. this weight wasn't mayweather's prime weight class, but as far as his skill goes, he was still beter skilled than oscar, and oscar lost to shane mosley who threw sloppy punches and was just too fast for oscar. floyd, although, not as fast as he was at his lower weights was still just as smart, if not smarter, and his defense was still the best in boxing. he knows how to win under any circumstance. he could beat you by being defensive and potshotting or just using his speed to tag you up in combo form. at this weight class he used less combos and more potshooting than he's used before but against judah he showed his magnificent skill to break you down to the body. he would have done the same thing to de la hoya. oscar loved to fight, not to think too much at this weight. he knew he had a great punch with his left hook and knew he had a great jab, but when it came to fighting smart he'd mostly wanted to please the crowd, great for him, but not too bright when it came to victory. when he fought tito, he showed that he could outbox tito, but then he ran in the latter rounds and people still to this day believed that oscar won, but a lot of those people are casual fans and really don't know boxing. me, i felt the fight could have gone either way, and of oscar won, i could understand it, it was a close fight but those last 3 rounds or so showed me how ****** oscar could fight. people claim floyd runs too much, but they just don't truly understand effective movement and body positioning. what oscar did was run, what floyd does is hit and move, he's a slick boxer who used the ring up from pillar to post, and his bod movment would have threw oscar off imo no matter how good oscar could cut the ring off. floyd blocked great, moved great, and countered great. many feel oscar lost to pernell, even though pernell was a southpaw, so how do you think he would have fared with a mayweather who was just as slick but more polished than pernell, who was faster than pernell, who blocked better than pernell, who countered way better than pernell, the only thin pernell had that could equal or surpass floyd was his dodging skill because he could make you miss from any part of the ring no matter how close or far you were from him. floyd could fight off of the ropes and counter you off of the ropes while being defensive. oscar would have little to no chance in hell in beating floyd at welterweight. styles make fights and floyd's style would have been too much for oscar just like it was when they fought at 154 when floyd was really 148 and oscar was in his 160s.

you see, floyd is very methodical in the ring. he can beat you at any speed, beat you being defensive, beat you being aggressive or just flat out outbox the **** out of you. he trains like this and his stamina is always in tip top shape. oscar tires out and has tired out a lot. against mayweather at 147, it would have been no different imo.

oh, and before i forget, 130, let me just inform you that i don't believe oscar was in his prime at 130, but he was still fast as hell with good power. in noting this, he gets crushed by mayweather. at 130, oscar would lose possibly by knockout or tko. he wouldn't stand a chance against floyd at this weight, no chance in hell or heaven. this was floyd at his quickest. i believe floyd was in his prime at 140 because of how he put everything together, but at 130 he was just too much for any fighter. he didn't duck any top fighter like people want to claim. he would have fought anybody and beat them. he was that fast and well schooled. oscar would have lost badly to floyd at this weight imo, but oscar wasn't in his prime at this weight imo. when floyd was at 135, oscar was at 147 and at 135 floyd was still magnificant with his wins over castillo which many feel he lost the 1st fight, i felt he won a close, hard fought battle and he put the early rounds in the bag. then he beat him in the rematch. after that he showcased amazing skills again in his fights against jukko and genaro. floyd would have and could have beaten oscar at any weight.

but, to answer the thread, yes, it is funny how oscar can make 147, but it doesn't matter, he lost to floyd and will lose to floyd again if they ever fight again.

[DiegoFuego]

Agreed on all fronts. And thank you for your indepth analysis as opposed to a comment from somebody who disagrees (generally, Mayweatha hatas) where all they say is "NO WAY. OSCAR WOULD KILL FLOYD IN HIS PRIME"

Please. Give me a reason for thinking so.

[DiegoFuego]

Good to see nobody could provide evidence.

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