Pavlik/Miranda = FOTY

[Run]

I mean I understand what they are saying because I as well was on the edge of my seat during the Miranda/Pavlik fight. I was getting riled up and my heart was racing because the action was great, but also Im a Miranda fan and I was just hoping he would land that shot that would change the fight, but it never came.

I remember seeing the Mormeck/Bell II fight on my computer and I was the same way because of the 2 way action. It was that way until about the 10th when Mormeck knew he won the fight, but the rest of the fight was for sure FOTY material. It's too bad because the CW division doesn't get a lot of recognition and there actually is a lot of exciting fighters in that division.

I just can't see the logic. I realize most people watch solely HBO and aren't exposed to fights on other channels.......and don't really take an active interest in watching anything that isn't on Home Box Office.......but I can't see how the fight in discussion is the FOTY, it's puzzling.

Sure it was an exciting slugfest that lasted 7 rounds, but Bell and Mormeck were slugging it out the entire way and coupled with Bell's theatrics it made the fight highly entertaining. Like I said this is just a matter of some people not being in the know.







People question.......Did you see Bell/Mormeck II? Because it's hard for me to believe you did and at the same time think Pavlik/Miranda was better.



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[EsB818]

yeah the cotto-judah fight really had me intense all the way thru...im still going with the marquez-vasquez fight as foty right now.......

Cotto/Judah was good, but after the first couple rounds or so it wasn't really close. Judah barely even throw a punch the last couple rounds. I haven't seen Mormeck/Bell II yet but I will def check it out, still I doubt it could top Miranda/Pavlik in my book. I think it was also a factor that so many people were picking Miranda to kill Pavlik that when Pavlik not only was game, but that he was backing Miranda up and nailing him from the opening bell that made this fight so shocking and thrilling.

No need to be snobbish about your viewing preferences RunW/knives. Also, to say that there is no way anyone could consider Miranda/Pavlik after seeing Mormeck/Bell II is kind of pointless. What someone else considers FOTY is a subjective decision. However, I do now plan on watching that fight and if I then choose it as FOTY over Miranda/Pavlik I will say so.

[Gareth Ivanovic]

The Cotto/Judah fight had me excited because of the atmosphere in the arena. Both sides would go nuts when there man landed a significant punch. The fight was good as well and Judah looked good in the early rounds, but Cotto took over.

As for the Marquez/Vasquez fight that probably would be my favorite for FOTY if it didn't end prematurely and in the manner it did. I mean I don't blame Vasquez he's nose was ****ed up.

[Run]

I haven't seen Mormeck/Bell II yet but I will def check it out, still I doubt it could top Miranda/Pavlik in my book. .

Are you kidding me? Is this some sort of joke?



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[Gareth Ivanovic]

I just can't see the logic. I realize most people watch solely HBO and aren't exposed to fights on other channels.......and don't really take an active interest in watching anything that isn't on Home Box Office.......but I can't see how the fight in discussion is the FOTY, it's puzzling.

Sure it was an exciting slugfest that lasted 7 rounds, but Bell and Mormeck were slugging it out the entire way and coupled with Bell's theatrics it made the fight highly entertaining. Like I said this is just a matter of some people not being in the know.







People question.......Did you see Bell/Mormeck II? Because it's hard for me to believe you did and at the same time think Pavlik/Miranda was better.

I forgot about Bell's theatric's yeah that does make that fight even better. Didn't he get lowblowed and do some funny stuff as well did some **** when Mormeck was running in the late rounds?

[Run]

No need to be snobbish about your viewing preferences RunW/knives. Also, to say that there is no way anyone could consider Miranda/Pavlik after seeing Mormeck/Bell II is kind of pointless. What someone else considers FOTY is a subjective decision. However, I do now plan on watching that fight and if I then choose it as FOTY over Miranda/Pavlik I will say so.

Snobbish? How can I not be?

This is the most ignorant thread I've read in years. You called Pavlik/Miranda FOTY yet you haven't even ****ing seen Bell/Mormeck II.....and you have the audacity to say "I doubt it will top Pavlik v.s. Miranda".

It's so thick you could cut it with a knife.



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[EsB818]

Snobbish? How can I not be?

This is the most ignorant thread I've read in years. You called Pavlik/Miranda FOTY yet you haven't even ****ing seen Bell/Mormeck II.....and you have the audacity to say "I doubt it will top Pavlik v.s. Miranda".

It's so thick you could cut it with a knife.

I don't get Showtime or whatever station its on, so NO i haven't seen it, but like I said I'll look it up on Youtube. I think its ignorant about how SURE you are that your FOTY has to automatically be everyone else's. I could very well like Mormeck/Bell II better than Pavlik/Miranda, but I said considering how much I liked that fight I was simply saying that I didn' think I could enjoy another fight more than that one. I'm not saying Ring Magazine has to automatically crown Miranda/Pavlik FOTY, I think you misunderstood my point. You seem to be a very combative person, I think you should go hit a heavy bag or something, arguing on the internet doesn't do anything for me. Regards.

[-EX-]

Cotto/Judah was good, but after the first couple rounds or so it wasn't really close. Judah barely even throw a punch the last couple rounds. I haven't seen Mormeck/Bell II yet but I will def check it out, still I doubt it could top Miranda/Pavlik in my book. I think it was also a factor that so many people were picking Miranda to kill Pavlik that when Pavlik not only was game, but that he was backing Miranda up and nailing him from the opening bell that made this fight so shocking and thrilling.

No need to be snobbish about your viewing preferences RunW/knives. Also, to say that there is no way anyone could consider Miranda/Pavlik after seeing Mormeck/Bell II is kind of pointless. What someone else considers FOTY is a subjective decision. However, I do now plan on watching that fight and if I then choose it as FOTY over Miranda/Pavlik I will say so.

Pavlik-Miranda got one sided too after the 1st or 2nd round when Pavlik realized Miranda can't fight going backwards. Mirand-Pavlik was only 6 ot 7 rds. I haven't seen Mormeck-Bell 2 to be honest.

[velvet fog]

Both fights were good, but i prefer the Miranda-Pavlik fight. The Bell-Mormeck fight was great through about five rounds, then the each became so exhausted (rightfully so),that they could not sustain the action. Bell was reduced to leaning on the ropes and mormeck would land a quick combo, then turn and run. This lasted the last third of the fight.

I like the Pavlik-Miranda fight because it started fast and ended with a ****. The Bell fight started fast, then fizzled out, in my opinion.

[Chipper]

How can anyone consider Cotto/Judah FOTY?

FOTYs are not one sided beatings. They have to have sustained two way action.

Pavlik/Miranda had some great moments in the early rounds especially the 2nd round which had them trading huge punches off the rope for most of the round.

But I've seen Mormeck/Bell II and that is the current FOTY candidate although it had Mormeck running a bit at the end.

But Marquez/Vasquez II will be FOTY in my opinion the first one was great while it lasted and the rematch should be even better.