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  • restless_438
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    Holyfield Says He Can, But He Won’t

    Holyfield Says He Can, But He Won’t
    By Brett Conway (July 4, 2007)

    On Saturday night, Evander Holyfield defeated Lou Savarese via ten-round decision in El Paso, Texas. Savarese may be best remembered for knocking out a shot Buster Douglas, but I remember him as the fighter who lost to Mike Tyson in nano-seconds in England and as the fighter heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis once called Lou Saver-easy. That was many years ago.

    In El Paso, up to the end of the eighth round Holyfield didn’t have an easy time – it was nip and tuck until that moment he landed a great left hook, putting Savarese on his butt in his own corner. After that, Holyfield did have an easy time. But given the passage of years since Lewis’s statement, maybe Savarese is no longer Saver-easy but Saver-easiest, a perfect fighter for the 44-year old Holyfield to face: a 41 year old without the tools to push him around the ring.

    Given the fact of the fighter’s ages and the fact that neither are taken seriously as potential heavyweight champions (except by the four sanctioning organizations which all have Holyfield ranked in the top-15), this fight should not have gotten much coverage. Yet the newspapers don’t seem to see it that way: there seemed to be more print coverage of this fight than any since Mayweather’s win over Oscar De La Hoya in May. And the boxing world doesn’t see it that way either: there is much talk that this fight will propel Holyfield past Eddie Chambers, Vitali Klitschko, Lamon Brewster, Sergei Liakhovich, Tony Thompson, and Samuel Peter to a shot at Sultan Ibragimov’s IBF heavyweight title. (WBA champion Ruslan Chagaev may have something to say about this proposed match up since he’s scheduled to fight Ibragimov in Moscow in October.)

    I don’t see how beating a 41-year old man makes Holyfield the logical contender for Ibragimov since I would pick all six of the above mentioned heavyweights over the Real Deal. I don’t see how comeback victories over four handpicked opponents give Holyfield the right to take away shots from any of the above mentioned fighters, guys who have been winning fights against top level competition. And I don’t see how it will do boxing any good having Holyfield get beaten up and down and all over the place by Ibragimov. Holyfield on his comeback trail has not faced anyone like Ibragimov. He has not faced anyone who can throw combinations or a guy who showed a good jab.

    For all his talk of injuries and what-not, Holyfield cannot hide that his comedown in the past had as much to do with age as with wear and tear. He can say all he wants about age being only a number, but he is wrong. Age isn’t just a number: it is wear and tear on the body. The Larry Donald fight shows what will happen when anyone with good boxing skills goes against this faded ex-champion. On that November day in 2004, Donald landed combinations at will, jabbed until Holyfield became a bobblehead, and pitched a virtual shutout.

    Holyfield’s trainer Ronnie Shields can insist Holyfield is a better fighter now than ever before. He can say how he spent six months on the job, six months on the hook, six months on the right hand all he wants. This training may have improved Holyfield’s technique but it also made him a year and a half older.

    Now, Holyfield has comeback and fought against Jeremy Bates, Fres Oquendo, Vinny Maddalone, and Lou Savarese. But he will always be able to defeat these limited guys who don’t have his skills. But when Holyfield steps up to a real challenge, he will find the ability to absorb punishment will just not be there. The ability to sustain an attack against someone pushing him back against his combinations will not be there. The ability to land the second punch – which he admitted he couldn’t do against Savarese – or maybe even the first punch will not be there. Against a real opponent, as the rounds mount, his legs will start to droop, and he will be knocked out sooner or later. And if he goes up against Ibragimov it will be sooner.

    It doesn’t matter whom he fights among the champions. Holyfield will not win. Maskaev, Klitschko, Chagaev, and Ibragimov – these four all have too many tools and too much left in the tank for Holyfield. Chagaev and Ibragimov are southpaws with great boxing skills and good foot movement, something Holyfield will have a lot of problems with. Maskaev showed that although he may not be the best heavyweight champion out there, he can still compete at the top level when he knocked out Hasim Rahman. Even though Holyfield beat Rahman before, I don’t think he could beat the current chubby version of the one-time heavyweight champ. And Klitschko? Forget about it. Holyfield would be in some physical peril against that long jabber with a decapitating right hand. Evander, if you must have a title shot, please stay away from Klitschko. Boxing does not need another Ali-Holmes.

    Since Holyfield just can’t seem to give it up, like a lot of other aging heavyweights past the age of forty, maybe he should instead give up heavyweight title dreams and just join the gang of ex-champions sporting beer guts. Instead of hankering for a shot at Ibragimov or Chagaev or whomever, he should demand a rematch against Rid**** Bowe or Michael Moorer or even Mike Tyson (Catch phrase for Tyson-Holyfield III? How about “Boxing Fans, Lend Us Your Ears”?). These matches would pit name fighters against each other. They would have an audience just based on the name recognition. And they could probably even land on pay-per-view since there would be the curiosity factor.

    But best of all, if he picks on someone his own age, Holyfield would not be fighting for a heavyweight title – something he doesn’t deserve to do – and maybe we can get on with looking for a unified heavyweight champion instead of killing time with title matches with washed up, one-time great fighters.
  • !! Mr. Soprano
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    sad but very true

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    • Hitman932
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      great article.... i enjpoy the rip on the media for supporting holyfields delusional state.... but our idiot boxingscene posters are just as bad, if you recall there was a poll on here asking who ibragimov should fight next and i think 80 percent of the morons on this site chose holyfield themselves over all the more legit contenders..

      a title shot for holyfield is just another scheme to set the division back 6 months.

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        Originally posted by Hitman932
        great article.... i enjpoy the rip on the media for supporting holyfields delusional state.... but our idiot boxingscene posters are just as bad, if you recall there was a poll on here asking who ibragimov should fight next and i think 80 percent of the morons on this site chose holyfield themselves over all the more legit contenders..

        a title shot for holyfield is just another scheme to set the division back 6 months.
        who cares, it would be exciting..and i would give this version of holyfield a chance to beat ibragimov and maskaev, and even a fight with klitschko could be interesting. but even if it does hurt the division (which it does) i'd like to see it because its an exciting heavyweight story. i hope he wins a title, and i hope he doesnt get hurt in the process

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        • Hitman932
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          Originally posted by fluent2332
          who cares, it would be exciting..and i would give this version of holyfield a chance to beat ibragimov and maskaev, and even a fight with klitschko could be interesting. but even if it does hurt the division (which it does) i'd like to see it because its an exciting heavyweight story. i hope he wins a title, and i hope he doesnt get hurt in the process

          if he could beat someone worth mentioning i wouldnt mind but lou savarese is a joke, same as maddalone, oquendo and bates

          he lost every round to larry donald, who lost every round to alexander povetkin

          id rather see alexander dimitrenko get a title shot, holyfield is not an exciting story to me.... you cant enjoy any story when you already know how it will end

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          • damian5000
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            Holyfield did great until the 5th and 6th and started to look gassed. After that he came right back. He almost waxed Lou in the 4th.

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            • fluent2332
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              Originally posted by Hitman932
              if he could beat someone worth mentioning i wouldnt mind but lou savarese is a joke, same as maddalone, oquendo and bates

              he lost every round to larry donald, who lost every round to alexander povetkin

              id rather see alexander dimitrenko get a title shot, holyfield is not an exciting story to me.... you cant enjoy any story when you already know how it will end
              oquendo was a respectable opponent and he looked solid against him. the larry donald fight took place when holyfield still had a shoulder injury. he even said his shoulder is completely healed now and it showed because he fires in combination which is something he hasnt done for years. plus holyfield is like gatti in the sense he doesnt have to do much to warrant a title shot. its just how it is. i still want to see him fight ibragimov

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              • beez721
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                Originally posted by fluent2332
                who cares, it would be exciting..and i would give this version of holyfield a chance to beat ibragimov and maskaev, and even a fight with klitschko could be interesting. but even if it does hurt the division (which it does) i'd like to see it because its an exciting heavyweight story. i hope he wins a title, and i hope he doesnt get hurt in the process
                youre either delusional or suffering a severely low boxing iq. holyfield has already shown he cant beat a heavyweight with any type of handspeed and or movement anymore. beating 4 bums and has beens in a row means nothing. when are some of you guys ever going to learn? anyway,,,if holy does get a title shot have fun being disappointed or crying in the end. its going to be another ugly one sided loss if it happens and for his sake I hope it doesnt

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                • Verstyle
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                  Damn thats too much to be reading but all I gotta say is Holyfield is doing better then alot of other heavyweights.

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                  • Verstyle
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                    Damn thats too much to be reading but all I gotta say is Holyfield is doing better then alot of other heavyweights.

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