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  • realheavyhands
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    #41
    like i said its hard to tell but he was the first.. takes one to know one .. when your in a peekaboo defense the only shots you can throw that will alnd are wide.. johnson knocked out ketchel with a left right that was stragiht as a pin

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    • j
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      #42
      **** you jack johnson haters!

      the man was tactically brilliant. hit hard, and was entertaining.

      if any of you think he had no real skill, you simply must not know much about boxing.

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      • Technical_Skill
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        #43
        Originally posted by j
        **** you jack johnson haters!

        the man was tactically brilliant. hit hard, and was entertaining.

        if any of you think he had no real skill, you simply must not know much about boxing.
        What are you talking about?

        Explain his tactical brilliance please.

        lol.

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        • realheavyhands
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          #44
          Originally posted by Technical_Skill
          What are you talking about?

          Explain his tactical brilliance please.

          lol.
          jack johnson was not a clubbin puncher he never got hit and smiled round after round he was only 200 lbs 6 feet tall.. he would hit and almost never get hit clean.. he was beating everbody till he was 48 years old

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          • j
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            #45
            jack johnson was not a clubbin puncher he never got hit and smiled round after round he was only 200 lbs 6 feet tall.. he would hit and almost never get hit clean.. he was beating everbody till he was 48 years old
            exactly. the best boxers in his day even, although reluctantly, stated that he was the best.

            i am not even going to try to discuss this with somebody who already has thier mind made up. it's pointless.

            but know this Technical_Skill, you are in a minority here calling jack johnson an unskilled fighter. maybe you should do some research on him.

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            • Technical_Skill
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              #46
              You cant explain because there is nothing to explain,

              and to real heavy hands, he hardly got hit?

              This is one of his better fights, look at the holding and wresting, no tactical brilliance here.

              lol.

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              • realheavyhands
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                #47
                he toyed with his opponents..

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                • Technical_Skill
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by realheavyhands
                  he toyed with his opponents..
                  Funny, i didnt see him fightin anything like mayweather or toney like u said he did, and look how much holding and wrestling he was doing, and thats a better fight from him too, there is one where he virtually suplexes the guy.

                  Johnson, good in an era with limited skills, and crappy rules and regulations.

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                  • realheavyhands
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                    Funny, i didnt see him fightin anything like mayweather or toney like u said he did, and look how much holding and wrestling he was doing, and thats a better fight from him too, there is one where he virtually suplexes the guy.

                    Johnson, good in an era with limited skills, and crappy rules and regulations.
                    you just proved your self wrong.. did you see how he turned over his right hand yet can still hook off the jab.. he turn over his right hand beautifully something mayweather just learned to do vs oscar..he has a toney like right hand

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                    • Technical_Skill
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by realheavyhands
                      you just proved your self wrong.. did you see how he turned over his right hand yet can still hook off the jab.. he turn over his right hand beautifully something mayweather just learned to do vs oscar..he has a toney like right hand
                      Lol, Listen dude, i dunno how to break this to you, but Jack Johnson dont fight like mayweather and mayweather has alot more backlift on his right hand than Johnson.

                      I repeat.

                      Jack Johnson does not fight like James Toney or Mayweather.

                      In my opinion of course.

                      lol.

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