Could Aaron Pryor Have Been Beat In His Prime?

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  • BROOKLYN CESAR
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    #21
    Originally posted by McNulty
    I was looking @ his record and his only loss was @ the end of his career and he had ill drug problems. I used to follow him as a kid and loved watching him fight.

    Its no secret he was heavily dodged. Without Arguello his resume is ****. SRL didnt want it...Hearns lost in the am's to him and didnt want it either. How come Duran and the Hawk never met?

    39-1-35 is no joke.

    What happened...why was he dodged so bad? He was dodged like nobody else.

    I saw a documentary on him and its pretty sad how the drugs got him. Poor Hawk...

    Anyone know alot of info about the Hawk?
    He was awesome!!! I dont know why they ducked him but i think wouldve beat SRL!!!

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    • tredh
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      #22
      Originally posted by titoi
      If Pryor hadn't cheated, Arguello had him beat.
      Is that right so explain to me why Pryor knocked Arguello out earlier in the rematch.

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      • titoi
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        #23
        Originally posted by tredh
        Is that right so explain to me why Pryor knocked Arguello out earlier in the rematch.
        Sure. Neither fighter was the same after the beatings they put on each other that day. The fact that the second fight ended as it did doesn't change the facts of the first fight.

        That Pryor was doped in the first fight with Arguello is pretty well documented and a quick google of their names will indicate as much.

        I watched the fight live and even then couldn't believe the punishment Pryor was able to absorb. It seemed unnatural. Turns out, it was.

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        • Cletus Funk
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          #24
          True, he was old but he was still at the top of the tree until Pryor came along.

          I've seen nothing of Barney Ross, Locche or Loi so I can't really comment.

          Benitez would have a great chance with anyone at the weight and beating Cervantes at 17 years of age was amazing but I'm not sure if Benitez at such a young age would have been able to cope with what Pryor brings.

          I fancy Pryor over Chavez but Duran would be a pick 'em and arguably the greatest fight ever seen. Taylor was fast but I'd say Pryor gets to him eventually.

          Pryor v Hatton? Why would you want to do that to my boy? He'd never be the same again.

          Originally posted by wmute
          eeeeh cervantes was old as hills at the time.

          I pick Benitez to beat him, based on the combination of istinctive defense and general toughness. On the other hand Benitez was naturally bigger (he was at 140 as a teenager, so it is maybe not fair a comparison).

          I have seen footage of Locche only when he was already old, and from what i have seen Pryor would have been just too much pressure, too many punches, too much movement.

          A fight with Loi would have been interesting, from what I have read on Loi, but having seen no footage I will abstain.

          It is also hard to pick him against Ross, Chavez or Duran (in fact I would pick Duran 9/10, Ross 8/10, JCC 5/10).

          A great great fantasy fight would have been vs Meldrick Taylor.

          As for Mayweather Jr. Let's see how well he can deal with fast non stop pressure from a 140er in Hatton to have an idea.

          Hatton-Pryor, great, close fight until Hatton's face is the bloodiest mess ever seen outside a slaughterhouse.

          Pryor would murder Zoo in an almost embarassing fashion, Zoo was awesome but this is just a bad style matchup for him
          Last edited by Cletus Funk; 07-03-2007, 09:14 AM.

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          • eazy_mas
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            #25
            Originally posted by Cletus Funk
            His resume's not that lacking. He has Cervantes on there too, who's arguably the next best LWW that ever lived.
            heard he was 40 something unoffical when he was fighting Pryor as well as he had 120 fight unoffical and used leather sole shoes in a slippery floor and Proyer had rubber

            but it alway good to win a champion

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            • tredh
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              #26
              Originally posted by titoi
              Sure. Neither fighter was the same after the beatings they put on each other that day. The fact that the second fight ended as it did doesn't change the facts of the first fight.

              That Pryor was doped in the first fight with Arguello is pretty well documented and a quick google of their names will indicate as much.

              I watched the fight live and even then couldn't believe the punishment Pryor was able to absorb. It seemed unnatural. Turns out, it was.
              They both took a lot of punishment and since neither of them was the same Pryor beating him earlier in the rematch means a lot because he wasnt doped up the that time.

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              • titoi
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                #27
                Originally posted by tredh
                They both took a lot of punishment and since neither of them was the same Pryor beating him earlier in the rematch means a lot because he wasnt doped up the that time.
                I guess that's one way to interpret those events.

                Another way is to accept that Pryor was a great fighter who tragically succumbed to cheating and who's legacy was therefore forever tarnished.

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                • eazy_mas
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by tredh
                  They both took a lot of punishment and since neither of them was the same Pryor beating him earlier in the rematch means a lot because he wasnt doped up the that time.
                  if someone took something to enhance his preformance and it not part of the sport commiction then he should be punished.

                  anyway if Pryor lost UD to Arguello his career path would have changed

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                  • Cletus Funk
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by eazy_mas
                    heard he was 40 something unoffical when he was fighting Pryor as well as he had 120 fight unoffical and used leather sole shoes in a slippery floor and Proyer had rubber

                    but it alway good to win a champion
                    Just checked Boxrec and it says he was 35 and it was his 100th fight. Not sure how accurate it is though.

                    I've never heard the shoe story before. Interesting.

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                    • eazy_mas
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Cletus Funk
                      Just checked Boxrec and it says he was 35 and it was his 100th fight. Not sure how accurate it is though.

                      I've never heard the shoe story before. Interesting.
                      it from the commetators in the fight.


                      I just seen the beging of the fight at youtube and this information was taken from the commetator on that fight

                      it unoffical he is 40

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