Hatton makes his case to beat Mayweather!

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  • Welter_Skelter
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    #11
    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
    What Hatton is saying makes sense...I always said he made good points right before the Tszyu fight, and he is making sense now, but the only problem here is what many forget, in order to pull this off Hatton also had to wait until he knew his best chance was there, meaning, once Mayweather reaches his 30's. Mayweather may not be quite the same fighter: He doesn't seem as fast, he doesn't punch as much, he stays on the ropes to much, and it might be because of age, wear and tear in the gym, and of course the extra weight/muscle. This is one of the problems I have had with Hatton, his timing. Although great for him, it means **** to the fans that want to see two peak fighters going at it. I want to see who really is the best peak for peak, yet he refuses. He should have fought Mayweather back when Mayweather first approached him.


    I also better not see his "Smothering" approach if it means one punch, then hug. Whatever happened to the Hatton we used to see before Tszyu?
    Is this the approach he needs to take now that he is no longer fighting old fighters, maybe, but damn it stinks. Ricky was more exciting to watch before he fought Tszyu, that was a boxer/fighter. I am for clinching for certain purposes, a bit of rough housing, but not Ruiz-boxing.

    I love how Mayweather supporters keep making this excuse ALREADY... Well Floyd is in 30's now..

    The guy has made a living beating up guys well into their 30's for the past few years..

    But suddenly now he is 30..It's not fair that he might be a bit past his prime..

    Go hang your self deluded pseudo intellected head in shame..

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #12
      Originally posted by rambov
      Hatton will get knocked out by a left hook while running in to punch and hold in the 9th round.

      Remember I said it folks....
      You noticed that vulnerability from the Tszyu fight?

      Notice any time they were separated and Hatton came charging in Tszyu was able to land and even stun Ricky on occasion with the left hook. Each time Hatton was not able to respond and had to hold for about 9 seconds.

      This is also, why I say a younger, fitter, faster, more agile Tszyu most likely would have beaten him.

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      • hugh grant
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        #13
        Please noone say PBF is over the hill. But Hatton shouldnt give the game away about how he will beat PBF. He should be quietly confident within himself and that is all that matters. Hatton will be underdog and that is how he likes it.

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        • Benny Leonard
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          #14
          Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
          I love how Mayweather supporters keep making this excuse ALREADY... Well Floyd is in 30's now..

          The guy has made a living beating up guys well into their 30's for the past few years..

          But suddenly now he is 30..It's not fair that he might be a bit past his prime..

          Go hang your self deluded pseudo intellected head in shame..
          Floyd supporters? lets just say if Ray Leonard and Floyd were in the ring in their primes I would be rooting for Ray, not Floyd..matter of fact, I would still be rooting for Ray even now, despite me knowing that he would get his ass kicked at his age.

          I would also be rooting for Kostya Tszyu and several other fighters.

          I would of supported Shane, but I am not a big fan of Oscar and since they are partners, forget it. If this was Shane before, yeah, I would root for Shane.

          I just have to defend Floyd because he is getting thrown in the gutter by Hatton nuthuggers, plus if he sucks that means Chico sucks, along with Castillo and the rest.

          Was Diego 30?
          Castillo 30?
          Hatton 30?
          Cotto 30?

          Hernandez was 32, so I will give you that.

          Who did Rocky Marciano make his living off? and notice he retired a couple of years into his 30's.



          REREAD IT AGAIN:

          HATTON SHOULD OF FACED FLOYD 2-3 YEARS AGO WHEN BOTH WERE STILL IN THE 20'S. IT IS NOT LIKE IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MADE THEN, FLOYD WANTED IT, HATTON DID NOT. THIS IS WHY I SAY HATTON HAS A LOSS TO FLOYD, FOR RETREATING. HATTON WAITED BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE FIRST THING TO GO IS SPEED, PLUS HE WANTED FLOYD TO TAKE MORE WEAR AND TEAR TO HIS BODY. HATTON ROBBED US OUT OF TWO PEAK FIGHTERS FIGHTING, THAT IS ALL. FLOYD IS NOT FIGHTING THE SAME AS HE USED TO, NOT SURE EXACTLY WHY, BUT FOR SOME REASON HE HAS NOT IMPRESSED AND I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE WHICH REASON TO FOLLOW.


          SIMILAR, NOT QUITE THE SAME, BUT YOU DIDN'T LOSE RESPECT FOR RAY LEONARD WHEN HE MADE HAGLER WAIT?
          Last edited by Benny Leonard; 07-01-2007, 06:57 PM.

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          • Benny Leonard
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            #15
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Please noone say PBF is over the hill. But Hatton shouldnt give the game away about how he will beat PBF. He should be quietly confident within himself and that is all that matters. Hatton will be underdog and that is how he likes it.
            Not saying he is over the hill, just saying he "may" not be the same fighter he was when the fight should have been made.

            It could be from the muscle increase, wear and tear, the fact that he is fighting bigger opponents so he is cautious, not sure, but one thing I did notice is his speed is not quite the same, and he is not throwing nearly as much as he used to. Kind of reminds me of Roy Jones Jr. with the decline of punch-stats.
            Last edited by Benny Leonard; 07-01-2007, 07:03 PM.

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            • hugh grant
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              #16
              Please dont say that. Hatton has not robbed us of a fight between 2 peak fighters. PBF is better than he was 2 years ago.
              All the good boxers are 30+. With age comes experience. Joe Calzaghe, Bernhard Hopkins. Tarver wasnt even known when he was 30 and he achieved his stuff in his mid thirties.
              Hatton knows the first thing to go is speed? Wanted PBF to have more wear and tear on the body?
              PBF hasnt impressed much of late is because he is fighting better fighters.

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              • Benny Leonard
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                #17
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Please dont say that. Hatton has not robbed us of a fight between 2 peak fighters. PBF is better than he was 2 years ago.
                All the good boxers are 30+. With age comes experience. Joe Calzaghe, Bernhard Hopkins. Tarver wasnt even known when he was 30 and he achieved his stuff in his mid thirties.
                Hatton knows the first thing to go is speed? Wanted PBF to have more wear and tear on the body?
                PBF hasnt impressed much of late is because he is fighting better fighters.
                Experience, yes, but physically most likely not. Look at all the fighters that suddenly tailed off once they hit 30. Great fighters are able to hold off because of their experience and technique, but most slowly fall off physically.

                And Hatton did rob us because the fight should have been made already, same with Cotto/Arum.

                Nobody cares that these fights should have been made a couple of years ago?

                Why wait until Mayweather turns 30 and is not performing exactly like he used to. I want to see 100% Mayweather, not 90%.


                It is the same nonsense with his victory over Tszyu: just because Kostya said something like "I could beat a younger version of myself", Hatton fans actually believe that nonsense. Sure, Tszyu may have been "wiser", but physically he was nowhere near the Tszyu everybody came to know.

                Mayweather is nowhere near the decline that Tszyu was, but please, understand this fight should have been made before and Ricky-Ray robbed us.
                Last edited by Benny Leonard; 07-01-2007, 07:12 PM.

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                • beecherhq
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                  I love how Mayweather supporters keep making this excuse ALREADY... Well Floyd is in 30's now..

                  The guy has made a living beating up guys well into their 30's for the past few years..

                  But suddenly now he is 30..It's not fair that he might be a bit past his prime..

                  Go hang your self deluded pseudo intellected head in shame..
                  Could not agree more.

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                  • .Mik.
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                    #19
                    Who is to say that Hatton was 'at his best' when Mayweather challenged him?

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                    • Winkyftw!
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by porlie
                      Hatton could definitley beat Mayweather, Mayweathers never been pressured by anyone the way Hatton would pressure him.
                      That's not true. Watch the Chavez fight.

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