#1 Reason Floyd Should Stay Retired...

[Benny Leonard]

I will say this though. You guys know I think Floyd can kick everyone's ass but it depends on what Hatton means by a "catchweight". If he means like 142 or 143 then I wouldnt do it. Its far too dangerous. We all know Floyd is not a big guy but he was ripped against Oscar. Ive always say that Floyd would murder Pac but if Floyd had to fight Pac at 140 right after the Oscar fight then I would be a little scared that he will look like RJ and get KTFO. Floyd at 147 is perfect right now but he shouldnt go any lower. If Hatton is a real man then he'll move up like everyone else. He'll have to do it sooner or later. I hope he just meant 147

The same Pac that barely beat Marquez despite knocking him down a few times early?

Seriously, Oscar and Pac's strength are different, not to mention that Pac has been knocked out before by smaller men, is tagged a lot, and has big wins against a deflated/shot Morales, and a possible worn-torn Barrera.

Pac's my favorite fighter to watch at the moment, but his wins over Morales are overrated and we have to consider the fact that Barrera may be too since he was in some wars and the wear and tear cannot be to good. Other than that, he does have some great wins and is the most exciting fighter right now, in my opinion.

[Undocumented]

if hes going to do what hes done his whole career and cherry pick opponents then i think he should stay retired. we need warriors like margarito cotto pavlik miranda hatton, not businessmen like mayweather. i dont even know why many consider him #1 p4p. its debatable because he hasnt fought the best.

Agreed. PBF should try track and field.

[TRUE WARRIOR]

Cherry Pick?

WTF, do you even watch his fights?

His prime weight was down in the 130's. He could stand there all day and do what he wants with fighters in the 130's, but he moved up to get to O$car.

For his Castillo fight: First fight he was injured, second fight Floyd fought at full capacity and it was a better fight.

You still caught up in Hatton? The same Hatton who found out moving up in weight would not be a good idea. The same Hatton who will not fight a lightweight named Floyd. The same Hatton who hugs, nut shots his way to victory?

I hate to sound hard on Hatton because I do watch his fights and do like to see him fight, but enough with his nuthugging fans.

you need to stop living in 2002. this is 2007 and for the last 5 years mayweather has cherry picked opponent after opponent. nothing but bums at 140 including gatti, mitchell judan and bladoir at 147 when there fighters like margarito calling him out, mosley and a good fighter like cotto waiting. i dont blame him for fighting dlh because every fighter wants that payday but his last 5 years have been garbage. he needs to beat the best to be called the best and he hasnt done that in years.

[shocky]

Agreed. PBF should try track and field.

I think the little running ******* retired because he don't want too deal with the likes of Cotto or Hatton. Because they would give him a sound ass kicking

[robjr]

the only reason he should stay retired cuz he makes excuses not to fight the guys it makes sense to fight at the present time..... He should fight shane mosley.. then he will have me convinced.... till then stop annoying us floyd

[Joartcc3]

Although I love watching the most talented and skillful boxer out there, I think he should stay retired because it gives more mystery to the world of boxing... Fighting for #2 makes things uninteresting... We need a new #1 P4P King and as long as he's still around, it ain't happening...

He should stay retired coz fakes like him will get exposed.

And get some brains will ya, is PBF the most exciting? Oh yeah! Lols!

Skilled? Yeah ryt.

[Benny Leonard]

you need to stop living in 2002. this is 2007 and for the last 5 years mayweather has cherry picked opponent after opponent. nothing but bums at 140 including gatti, mitchell judan and bladoir at 147 when there fighters like margarito calling him out, mosley and a good fighter like cotto waiting. i dont blame him for fighting dlh because every fighter wants that payday but his last 5 years have been garbage. he needs to beat the best to be called the best and he hasnt done that in years.

Hatton and Cotto did not want to fight him so that is not Mayweather's fault.

Same Gatti that Hatton wanted to fight?
But yeah, not an impressive fight based on talent, but understandable in the sense of building his name.

Mitchell fight: did not understand that one

Judah: Judah was a legit fighter, but he was never the same mentally after being knocked out by Tszyu, but still better than who Hatton has fought, except for Tszyu. Although I am not sure since that version of Tszyu was not even the same version that fought and beat Judah. But both fighters faded by mid point.

Baldy was the Champion so he fought him. This is the same Baldy that Hatton tried to get a fight with.

He tried to get a fight with Mosley but Shane said he had some type of injury and/or he wanted the rest of the year off. I forget which excuse he used. Funny to see Shane want Floyd now that Floyd does not seem to be the same fighter.



The fact is both Hatton and Mayweather have been disappointing.

I also read that Hatton wants a "Catch-weight."
I hope that is not true since he will be fighting a fighter that started off as a lightweight and the weight seems to have effected a bit of his speed and stamina. Plus, Mayweather comes in at 148 come fight time anyway so it would actually benefit both fighters since they would not have to go through losing, then gaining the weight back.

I do not dislike Hatton, I just wish he would of fought Mayweather when he was supposed to have fought him. I also think a fight with Cotto would have been a fight that could have been made and it would have been a good fight for the fans.

I would of liked to have seen a Margarito fight with Mayweather, but two things held that back: Mayweather's shaky relationship with Arum, and the fact there would be little money or the same money Mayweather had been getting, while there was O$car fight on the horizon. No point in risking a possible tough fight with Margy for little money while $20 million and exposure is waiting for you. It has always been O$car that Floyd wanted.




For Oscar fight: Yeah, no sense in arguing that given the $20 million Floyd made off that fight...plus the exposure. Oscar was still a risk, he still has his power.


If Hatton can get Floyd now then I actual think it was worth it for him since Mayweather has not fought up to his usual standards and Hatton is still younger. Hatton's body attack and constant pressure could hurt Floyd, but it depends on what Floyd shows up.

My complaint with Hatton was his constant talk of Floyd. He puts Floyd down yet he failed to fight him for this long. By waiting it tells me he knew he has to wait until Floyd is on the decline to have a greater shot at winning.
It is not quite the same as how Ray Leonard did it to Hagler, but if Hatton waits a bit longer and then Floyd accepts, to me it will be the same.


My other complaint with Hatton is HE DOES NOT DO GIVE REMATCHES TO CHAMPIONS. Before Tszyu even could say anything about his future, Billy and even Hatton (although he goes back and forth) said that there was no point for a rematch. He also did not give one to Collazo. So I hope Mayweather realizes this and knows he has to win. I also hope that if Mayweather or anyone else beats Hatton they say "No, there is no point to a rematch."


I respect both fighters, after all, they are pro-elite boxers, but that does not mean I cannot critique them for conversation purposes.

[Addison]

Cherry Pick?

WTF, do you even watch his fights?

His prime weight was down in the 130's. He could stand there all day and do what he wants with fighters in the 130's, but he moved up to get to O$car.

For his Castillo fight: First fight he was injured, second fight Floyd fought at full capacity and it was a better fight.

You still caught up in Hatton? The same Hatton who found out moving up in weight would not be a good idea. The same Hatton who will not fight a lightweight named Floyd. The same Hatton who hugs, nut shots his way to victory?

I hate to sound hard on Hatton because I do watch his fights and do like to see him fight, but enough with his nuthugging fans.

Benny, I'm surprised you don't appreciate what Hatton does..

Is it not a classic brawling style?

People attribute clinching nowadays to being strictly for defensive purposes.. I see it more as a style of fighting.

An extremely taxing, aggressive style of fighting..

I know you, Benny. You could probably name more great champions with this "style" than most folks here..

Does it really do nothing for you?


Example: (RIP Kid)

[tyson]

Benny, I'm surprised you don't appreciate what Hatton does..

Is it not a classic brawling style?

People attribute clinching nowadays to being strictly for defensive purposes.. I see it more as a style of fighting.

An extremely taxing, aggressive style of fighting..

I know you, Benny. You could probably name more great champions with this "style" than most folks here..

Does it really do nothing for you?


Example: (RIP Kid)

There is no similarity between Gene Fullmer and Ricky Hatton.
Are you serious, or just taking the piss?

[j]

personally, i think hatton has a good chance at beating mayweather. what it really comes down to is both of their managers to make it happen. but, with boxing being too goddamned business minded for it's own good, it likely will not happen.