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  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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    #101
    Originally posted by RunW/Knives
    Ellerbe is a complete tool now in my view.

    A supposed "Joke" just stopped a monolith with 1 single body shot.
    Truth be told, Castillo didn't look monolithic. He looked like a shell of his former self.

    I would think that most knowledgeable boxing fans would agree.

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    • Run
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      #102
      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
      Truth be told, Castillo didn't look monolithic. He looked like a shell of his former self.

      I would think that most knowledgeable boxing fans would agree.
      Doesn't change the fact that he had never been on the canvas before.

      End of story.



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      • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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        #103
        [QUOTE=DIOS DOMINICANO;2466136][B]Floyd and Al are complementary about Leonard. They would know his contributions better than I would, and my guess would be that they know better than you.

        Sorry, but for now, I'll defer to their evaluation of what Big L brings to the team.QUOTE]

        LOL, wow, so what u are saying is u are someone who just believes what he reads and hears?? I got you. Its amazing......you cant see through anything.... of coursethey talk good about him, they have him on baord, he's with them etc....but you ACTUALLY think that something comes up in negotiations for a Floyd fight and if Leonard isnt there it doesnt get done. "Hey, Floyd we were gonna give you ten million dollars but because Leonard knows you we decided to give you an extra ten on top of that." LOL. idiot

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        • allstar757
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          #104
          leonard ellerbe is paid my mans and nem. he entourage and thats it. he may be floyd friend and everything, but that dont change what his position is. he is not even that wise as it seems to be an advisor like that. floyd has others besides ellerbe advising him. floyd dont seem like a total dummy anyway

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          • Red_Menace
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            #105
            Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
            2) Does somebody have to bea top-level fighter to be knowledgeable or to be able to offer an opinion?
            He called an undefeated championship-caliber fighter a "joke" and "overrated." That's not really an intelligent opinion, it's just **** talk. The guy should keep his mouth shut, because really, he's a nobody. Do you honestly think Floyd wouldn't be as good as he is without Ellerbe? Do you honestly think Floyd wouldn't be getting the same big pay days with a different person in his entourage? Maybe the guy is good at his job, and whatever it entails, but he really shouldn't be talking **** about anyone. If he wants to say Hatton has weaknesses that could be exploited, and offer some kind of intelligent opinion, fine, but the **** talk should stay out of his realm. Why do people even ask for his opinion anyway?

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            • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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              #106
              Originally posted by Red_Menace
              He called an undefeated championship-caliber fighter a "joke" and "overrated." That's not really an intelligent opinion, it's just **** talk. The guy should keep his mouth shut, because really, he's a nobody. Do you honestly think Floyd wouldn't be as good as he is without Ellerbe? Do you honestly think Floyd wouldn't be getting the same big pay days with a different person in his entourage? Maybe the guy is good at his job, and whatever it entails, but he really shouldn't be talking **** about anyone. If he wants to say Hatton has weaknesses that could be exploited, and offer some kind of intelligent opinion, fine, but the **** talk should stay out of his realm. Why do people even ask for his opinion anyway?
              Well, there you go. You actually said it much, much better than I was trying to say it. You hit my thoughts right on the button. Good post, Red

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              • BORIQUA POWER
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                #107
                [QUOTE=bigtime9;2464998]and what are you doingQUOTE]

                bigtime seem like the guy whose greatest day in life was that day back when he found out they had internetin the halfway house and he could talk spit to pro figthers and not get smaked around for it like usually happened to him when he opened his trap lol.

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                • McNulty
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                  Doesn't change the fact that he had never been on the canvas before.

                  End of story.
                  Lest you forget Castillo got TKO'd 4x before. Not like hes never been stopped.

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                  • THE REAL NINJA
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                    I will say this much...many times I have tried to get top pro fighters to post here and on other boards..and every single one of them told me that same thing, basically, that you said here.
                    I was in a Aol chatroom with Peter McNeely and I think you were there too.
                    I remember I asked him if it really was him and after he told me yes people started taking shots at him so he left .
                    This was about two years ago when i first started using the net so i didn't trust anyone but after he left I knew it had to have been him.

                    It's to bad, i'd like to talk to him again .

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                    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                      #110
                      I'm an idiot because I disagree with your viewpoint?

                      [QUOTE=ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY;2467067]
                      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                      [B]Floyd and Al are complementary about Leonard. They would know his contributions better than I would, and my guess would be that they know better than you.

                      Sorry, but for now, I'll defer to their evaluation of what Big L brings to the team.QUOTE]

                      LOL, wow, so what u are saying is u are someone who just believes what he reads and hears?? I got you. Its amazing......you cant see through anything.... of coursethey talk good about him, they have him on baord, he's with them etc....but you ACTUALLY think that something comes up in negotiations for a Floyd fight and if Leonard isnt there it doesnt get done. "Hey, Floyd we were gonna give you ten million dollars but because Leonard knows you we decided to give you an extra ten on top of that." LOL. idiot
                      No, that is not what I am saying.

                      What I am saying is that the boxing game is very shady. Guys switch promoters, trainers, managers, etc ALL THE TIME. Look at the current hostility between Gatti and McGirt.

                      So, I think that Leonard's longevity with Team Mayweather says something. Additionally, he has been with the team through periods of enormous growth and change.

                      Floyd credits L for much of his fitness - and PBF is always the fittest fighter in the game. Floyd regards the guy as a friend. Is Leonard a sycophant? Maybe. But if that is what PBF needs to be his best under the light, so be it.

                      Again, my guess is that you are no closer to Team Mayweather than I am. You don't appear to have inside information.

                      So, YOU are making assumptions much the way I am. Only difference is that you are a glass hlaf-empty guy, and I'm a glass half-full guy.

                      I will respect our differences. I don't think the insults are necessary. Grow up.

                      If you DO have inside information, now would be a good time to share it.

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