What belts do you consider to be Undisputed?

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  • Technical_Skill
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    #11
    You dont need all four belts to be undisputed champ, two are enough i think, for me the WBC is the belt to have.

    In regards to Kay jay, in reality Joe calzaghe is undisputed champ at 168, he won WBO and IBF titles, now the WBO means **** all, but he beat Lacy for the IBF and lacy was ranked hight obviously, he made 20 defences, and beat better fighters than Kessler, so regardless of what ring magazine or the ranking say, thats my take on it.

    You dont need all the belts to be Undisputed champ, in fact to be honest, you dont even need belts to be considered the best period, Manny Pacquaio never had a belt for a while no? But he was still the best fighter at 130.

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    • Randall_Hopkirk
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      #12
      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
      You dont need all four belts to be undisputed champ, two are enough i think, for me the WBC is the belt to have.

      In regards to Kay jay, in reality Joe calzaghe is undisputed champ at 168, he won WBO and IBF titles, now the WBO means **** all, but he beat Lacy for the IBF and lacy was ranked hight obviously, he made 20 defences, and beat better fighters than Kessler, so regardless of what ring magazine or the ranking say, thats my take on it.

      You dont need all the belts to be Undisputed champ, in fact to be honest, you dont even need belts to be considered the best period, Manny Pacquaio never had a belt for a while no? But he was still the best fighter at 130.
      Undisputed status is too subjective for anyone to define a standard to which all 'undisputed' champions should reach. Hatton is the best 140 fighter out there but is he undisputed? No because there are title holders in the division that have not teed off against Hatton as yet, therefore there is a doubt as to weather the Hitman is the king at Super Lightweight. Some people [mainly Hatton haters] believe Witter or Torres can beat Hatton. Interesting you noted Pacquiao, a fighter who is probably the best SF. Is he undisputed? Not until he beats JMM. Then again, that's my view, I'm sure many will disagree.

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      • crold1
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        #13
        Manny never had any belts at 126 but he was the champ; the man who beat the man who etc. F the belts.

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        • RAESAAD
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          #14
          Originally posted by Greatjoe
          For a boxer to become Undisputed in his weight class what belts would he have to own in your eyes.

          For me it has to be the Main 4

          WBA,WBC,IBF and WBO.
          The belts themselves do not matter.....who holds them and who they beat to get them all factor in.Ring is usually on point when they give someone the ring title.

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          • Technical_Skill
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            #15
            Originally posted by Randall_Hopkirk
            Undisputed status is too subjective for anyone to define a standard to which all 'undisputed' champions should reach. Hatton is the best 140 fighter out there but is he undisputed? No because there are title holders in the division that have not teed off against Hatton as yet, therefore there is a doubt as to weather the Hitman is the king at Super Lightweight. Some people [mainly Hatton haters] believe Witter or Torres can beat Hatton. Interesting you noted Pacquiao, a fighter who is probably the best SF. Is he undisputed? Not until he beats JMM. Then again, that's my view, I'm sure many will disagree.
            Hatton is the is best fighter at 140 right NOW, he wasnt when mayweather was in the same division as him, which is why he refused to fight mayweather,

            For me mayweather is the man at 140, and Tsysu got called out by floyd a few times and did nothing about it, he thought hatton was the easier option imo and went after him.

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            • crold1
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              #16
              That's totally untrue. Kostya was under contract to Showtime and May to HBO; they couldn't fight. HBO NEVER lets contract guys fight on other nets and Showtime wasn't letting Tszyu go across the street. Tszyu would have fought Mayweather in a heartbeat.

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              • Technical_Skill
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                #17
                Originally posted by crold1
                That's totally untrue. Kostya was under contract to Showtime and May to HBO; they couldn't fight. HBO NEVER lets contract guys fight on other nets and Showtime wasn't letting Tszyu go across the street. Tszyu would have fought Mayweather in a heartbeat.
                Really, who is Joe Calzaghe contracted to, i thought it was HBO?

                no?

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                • Technical_Skill
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                  #18
                  When you done with that, work this one out,

                  Who was lennox lewis contracted to?

                  Who was Tyson contracted to?

                  Did they fight?

                  There is your answer, lol.

                  These fights can happen.

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