Miguel Cotto is ONE DIMENSIONAL.

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  • deuce_drop
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    #11
    Originally posted by Left2body
    Cotto does fight going backwards. Look at the Abdulev and I believe the N'Dou fights. He was backing up the whole time and took the role of boxer puncher.
    i was at the cotto-ndou fight sitting ringside and me and my friends all thought that cotto lost or should've been a draw. scorecards are one thing watching the fight damn near on the apron cotto didn't look good that fight. say what you want but i know the criteria for scoring fights, thats how i watch fights, and in doing so it wasn't a good performance................

    my two cents on that, but cotto is way solid and i think he brings a breath of fresh air into boxing, he has the ability to be a huge crossover star and give boxing the proper kind of attention it needs................

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    • jamesbrown
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      #12
      cotto took out some french prick with a shot to the arm...
      took out some PR prick with a shot to the liver
      took out some great amauter bye busting up his eye
      took out some cross dresser with help from the ref
      cotto is varied he attacks head body and balls to win as well as premature stoppages from refs ala crossdresser
      ... the art of sticking and moving is not running....
      entertaining to watch but i will enjoy see him get punished like he did zab
      and when he meets a fighter that come in to the fight weighing as much as him then u will c

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      • Left2body
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        #13
        Originally posted by deuce_drop
        i was at the cotto-ndou fight sitting ringside and me and my friends all thought that cotto lost or should've been a draw. scorecards are one thing watching the fight damn near on the apron cotto didn't look good that fight. say what you want but i know the criteria for scoring fights, thats how i watch fights, and in doing so it wasn't a good performance................

        my two cents on that, but cotto is way solid and i think he brings a breath of fresh air into boxing, he has the ability to be a huge crossover star and give boxing the proper kind of attention it needs................
        Fair enough. What did you score it? I'll have to take a second look at the fight. But I dont remember Cotto having close fights till the Corley, Torres and Paulie.

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        • deuce_drop
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          #14
          Originally posted by Left2body
          Fair enough. What did you score it? I'll have to take a second look at the fight. But I dont remember Cotto having close fights till the Corley, Torres and Paulie.
          i was there live, didn't write anything down but i was as well as the people around me were concerned that cotto might lose, he didn't obviously, but seeing it live it was far from unanimous. but i'm not hypercritical about it, i was just saying for saying sakes i guess. but seeing it live it was closer than people talk about it, that's all. but i'd say i thought that cotto fought to a draw maybe down a round. but that was a long time ago too, a lot has happened since. peace.

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          • -Antonio-
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            #15
            Originally posted by realheavyhands
            from what ive seen he cant fight going backwards to well at all... but as long as hes outweighing he opponets by 10-15 pounds he'll be alright
            Watch the Ceballos fight.

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            • Alien_Tanks
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              #16
              Originally posted by jamesbrown
              cotto took out some french prick with a shot to the arm...
              took out some PR prick with a shot to the liver
              took out some great amauter bye busting up his eye
              took out some cross dresser with help from the ref
              cotto is varied he attacks head body and balls to win as well as premature stoppages from refs ala crossdresser
              ... the art of sticking and moving is not running....
              entertaining to watch but i will enjoy see him get punished like he did zab
              and when he meets a fighter that come in to the fight weighing as much as him then u will c
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              • Left2body
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                #17
                Originally posted by deuce_drop
                i was there live, didn't write anything down but i was as well as the people around me were concerned that cotto might lose, he didn't obviously, but seeing it live it was far from unanimous. but i'm not hypercritical about it, i was just saying for saying sakes i guess. but seeing it live it was closer than people talk about it, that's all. but i'd say i thought that cotto fought to a draw maybe down a round. but that was a long time ago too, a lot has happened since. peace.
                Thats cool, you may be right. It very well may be closer than I remember. But I dont remember 100% was I right in that he was fighting backwards that fight?

                I think I remember him fighting backwards in the Abdulaev and N'Dou fights.

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                  #18
                  He fought a lot of the Ceballos fight going backwards, and some of the Bazan fight. I havent seen the Abdullaev fight in a while, and the Ndou fight is one of the few I havent seen so I dont know about those.

                  Either way he CAN fight backwards when he has to.

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                  • robjr
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Alien_Tanks
                    What is it about Miguel Cotto, that would make people still believe he is ONE DIMENSIONAL?

                    What makes him so one dimensional?

                    The fact that he is always pressing the fight?
                    Always going forward?
                    Never running?
                    What is so hard about running away?
                    What is so hard about running and just throwing jabs all night?
                    Does anyone think Cotto could not do this if he wanted to?

                    The fact remains that Cotto throws about 80 to 100 punches per round.
                    I don't call this being one dimensional. I consider this consistency.
                    He does not waste many of his punches. That is called precision.
                    He does not try to rush things. That is called patience.
                    He can be hurt, wobbled and rocked but he knows what to do, if and when it occurs. I would call this an instinct and awareness. Even when he is out on his feet, he still does the right things necessary to regroup and continue fighting and get right back into the fight.
                    He goes to the body, he goes to the head, he switches from left to right but it's not exaggerated and wont stay in the unorthoxed style long enough to let his opponent adapt.
                    You can't stop him if he is cut.
                    He is hard to frustrate and very hard to take him out of his game plan.
                    He is not as slow as people claim he is because I have seen him catch weasels other people were unable to catch.

                    The only draw back I see in him is that he likes to take risks. Judah was popping his azz with beautiful left uppercuts and Cotto just kept going forward. Judah has destroyed many fighters with this uppercut. You would have to think if Miguel's chin was really made of glass, two things should have happend. Cotto should have got knocked out and or got scared of trying. It would have made me think twice about charging in. But it was not the case with Miguel.
                    Judah tried flurries and would miss.
                    Cotto can move.
                    You just don't hit him with every shot you are throwing... and in the process, while you are trying to throw and spill your load, he is there bobbing and weaving and will fire back. He wont just sit back and let you unload on him. There is no rope a dope in his manuscript. He will, for the most part, always make sure you don't out point him. If you throw 200 punches, he will try and throw 250 and be the one with more accuracy at the end of the punch stats.
                    We have yet to see everything this kid is made of. I have watched all of his fights on numerous occassions and in every fight he always does something new or different and I guess this is all depending on who he is fighting. I would have to say that he is very teachable and knows how to stick to a gameplan that was developed before a fight.

                    Knowing all of this, how does this make Miguel Cotto one dimensional? Was this started because Paulie Maligf@ggi began to say it and then Judah began to say the same thing?
                    Was this just something people thought saying made them sound knowledgeable?

                    Zab Judah said: "No one outside of the Latino community knows who Miguel Cotto is."

                    In which Miguel replied: "I don't care if people know me or not. Come June 9th. You are going to know who I am."

                    Now I am not saying this kid is perfect. Far from it.
                    He has flaws, there are kinks in his armor.

                    When he get's knocked the phuk out he will change his ways.
                    Until then, he will continue to take risks and will do his best to make sure that the fight is not left in the hands of the judges.

                    I am sure he thinks along the lines of Huerta.
                    I would have rather got knocked the phuk out, then to have been robbed the way I was robbed.

                    Cotto = 100% entertainment.

                    You will always get a **** for your buck!

                    I might have left somethings out here and there. You guys know I am not long winded and I like posting silly pictures and videos more than I do typing.

                    If anyone cares to elaborate and or point out some of his flaws or strengths that I did not touch on in detail, please by all means...Knock yourself out.

                    smf is that you lol ?

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