Should Chris Byrd retire?

[ChrististheAnswer]

Wow, I wasn't sure anyone understood where is was going with the original question. I'm glad to see got it. Cheers Nautilus!

You Klit fans just continue to give you and your fighters a bad name, shame on you for being so blind. Open your eyes and see reality, maybe you'll actually learn a little about boxing.

[MetalVomit]

Are you for real? No offense but you have been asking some real dumb questions lately. Your logic is horrible and makes no sense. The fight with Sanders exposed Wlad, his confidence has been shattered and his chin revealed. From that fight Wlad has lost to the pathetic Brewster and was on his way to losing to TOS.

Chris Byrd has recovered fully from the fight with Wlad and he has become a world champion. Wlad by contrast has become a pretender.

Get over your obsession with the Klit brothers and stop acting like they can do no wrong. Its one thing to be passionate about your favorite fighter and it is another thing to be completely blind. You Torino are blind. Wlad should retire because he is a fraud.

WHY CANT YOU FANATIC WLAD FANS SEE THAT WLAD CANT TAKE A PUNCH AND IS AFRAID TO GET HIT.

you make sense, but i wouldnt say he was on his way to losing to Williamson, i believe he outlanded TOS about 3 to 1 and after being knocked down,he basically shut TOS out. But to compare Wlad and Byrd really isnt necessary, considering the paths they have led.

[Torino]

You Klit fans just continue to give you and your fighters a bad name, shame on you for being so blind. Open your eyes and see reality, maybe you'll actually learn a litte about boxing.

All I did was look at the situation from YOUR perspective. This is the same "logic" you use to discredit Wlad. You don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot,do you? So I say shame on you and you should be ashamed of yourself.

[ChrististheAnswer]

you make sense, but i wouldnt say he was on his way to losing to Williamson, i believe he outlanded TOS about 3 to 1 and after being knocked down,he basically shut TOS out. But to compare Wlad and Byrd really isnt necessary, considering the paths they have led.

Yes it is debateable as to whether or not he was on his way to victory, but it was TOS's plan to get Wlad into the later rounds and then make his move. With one of the very few punches he hit Wlad with, Wlad went down.If TOS started to pour it on, he would have took Wlad out.

[MetalVomit]

Yes it is debateable as to whether or not he was on his way to victory, but it was TOS's plan to get Wlad into the later rounds and then make his move. With one of the very few punches he hit Wlad with, Wlad went down.If TOS started to pour it on, he would have took Wlad out.

TOS cant pour it on. He tried after he knocked Wlad down. I think the bottom line is this, Wlad and Byrd are both in trouble, Wlad more so than Chris because of his loss to brewster. Byrd "lost" both of his last fights without actually losing, and both of them need to either step up or step down. before they get hurt.

[ChrististheAnswer]

All I did was look at the situation from YOUR perspective. This is the same "logic" you use to discredit Wlad. You don't like it whae the shoe is on the other foot,do you? So I say shame on you and you should be ashamed of yourself.

You and the other Klit fans seem to be the only ones to think this way. You find some crazy nonsensical logic to try and attempt to restablish Wlad's credibility. If you don't think that is something to be ashamed of, then whatever.

Get over your obseesion and let it go.

[oldgringo]

I don't think Byrd is in trouble at all. He should have lost that bout with Oquendo and I had him barely beating Golota but he's not in the same boat as Wlad. He's a blown up middle who fights the toughest competition out there...and he WINS. He's not some 6'6 juggernaut with incredible raw offensive talent. Byrd knows/has/does what it takes to win for the most part...Wlad doesn't.

This coming from a guy who hates Byrd. Anyone who says Byrd is done needs to get their clock cleaned. Wlad ain't done either but he really needs to get his **** together before he gets KO'ed again. It's like Jose said...it looks like he's afraid to pull the trigger and fight.

[MetalVomit]

I don't think Byrd is in trouble at all. He should have lost that bout with Oquendo and I had him barely beating Golota but he's not in the same boat as Wlad. He's a blown up middle who fights the toughest competition out there...and he WINS. He's not some 6'6 juggernaut with incredible raw offensive talent. Byrd knows/has/does what it takes to win for the most part...Wlad doesn't.

This coming from a guy who hates Byrd. Anyone who says Byrd is done needs to get their clock cleaned. Wlad ain't done either but he really needs to get his **** together before he gets KO'ed again. It's like Jose said...it looks like he's afraid to pull the trigger and fight.

no don king = byrd loses those last two fights. that is why i said it isnt necessary to compare these two. like you said, theyre not in the same boat.

[oldgringo]

TOS cant pour it on. He tried after he knocked Wlad down. I think the bottom line is this, Wlad and Byrd are both in trouble, Wlad more so than Chris because of his loss to brewster. Byrd "lost" both of his last fights without actually losing, and both of them need to either step up or step down. before they get hurt.

Yeah...TOS can't pour it on in any respect. He's laughable at best. I disagree when you say Byrd's in trouble. He's never really shown incredible overwhelming skill or anything...he's never been dominant. He's just a good fighter who does what he has to in order to win fights.

[Torino]

OK you can't seem to put things into perspective, so I will once again try to help you.

I never said Wlad was still a top contender. I've have repetedly said "I don't know what will become of his career." good or bad.

I've also said he has developed a lot of problems.

The argument I have is that he shouldn't retire. He's no different than Tyson, Lewis or the countless others before him that lost fights by KO or otherwise.

Does that make me an unreasonable Klitschko fan? NO! In fact it shows I view him with equality to anyother boxer. And it proves You are BIAS.

The truth is that you can't stand ANYTHING good said about Wladimir whatsoever because he beat the crap out of Byrd.

YOU need to get over it.