Should Chris Byrd retire?

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  • Torino
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    Should Chris Byrd retire?

    By some posters logic, Wladimir Klitschko should retire at 28 years old because he lost a couple fights. So many people use the "he lost to him so he's better than him" analogy, doesn't that mean Chris Byrd should retire? After all, he lost badly to Wladimir.

    Imagine Lewis retiring after McCall, or Tyson retiring after Douglas. The list of examples could go on and on. Why should Wladimir be any different? Just think of all the great fights we would have missed if these men retired after their first KO loss.
  • ChrististheAnswer
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    Are you for real? No offense but you have been asking some real dumb questions lately. Your logic is horrible and makes no sense. The fight with Sanders exposed Wlad, his confidence has been shattered and his chin revealed. From that fight Wlad has lost to the pathetic Brewster and was on his way to losing to TOS.

    Chris Byrd has recovered fully from the fight with Wlad and he has become a world champion. Wlad by contrast has become a pretender.

    Get over your obsession with the Klit brothers and stop acting like they can do no wrong. Its one thing to be passionate about your favorite fighter and it is another thing to be completely blind. You Torino are blind. Wlad should retire because he is a fraud.

    WHY CANT YOU FANATIC WLAD FANS SEE THAT WLAD CANT TAKE A PUNCH AND IS AFRAID TO GET HIT.

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    • hollister
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      #3
      This is just one more case of people making posts based on their personal feelings for a fighter, instead of looking at all the facts objectively. I don't feel that Wlad should retire, he still has things to learn, and I feel he will improve with time. People just tend to be lenient with the fighters they like, and condemn the ones they don't, it's a natural tendency.

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      • neils7147933
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        #4
        Chris Byrd's a good defensive fighter who is accustomed to fighting 12-rounders.

        I don't think Wlad should retire, but those who do probably see this guy's chances at being "hurt" as the primary reason for retirement. He has been flat-out blasted. Lennox took a great shot from Rahman, but he never got Sanders-ized.

        I think Wlad can keep fighting, but Sanders and Brewster, along with the Williamson fight, make it hard to see that Wlad could compete at a high level. He needs a good performance to reassure his fans and critics.

        He's a monster; I give him a shot against some big names, like he has already beaten, but I also allow for the possibility that he gets destroyed. Someone like that is fun to watch fight in a bout where we know someone's probably getting KO'd, but why would a guy with all that education, money, and fame want to risk his health like that?

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        • Neuraxis
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          #5
          If Wlad should retire, I don't see why Byrd shouldn't also. Byrd is finished. He was owned in last two fights against a weak B level fighter Oquendo who hasn't beaten anyone and a shot Golota who has a loss to the biggest glass chin of them all, Michael Grant. Wlad and Byrd should fight each other, and the loser should retire.

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          • Neuraxis
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            #6
            Originally posted by hollister
            This is just one more case of people making posts based on their personal feelings for a fighter, instead of looking at all the facts objectively. I don't feel that Wlad should retire, he still has things to learn, and I feel he will improve with time. People just tend to be lenient with the fighters they like, and condemn the ones they don't, it's a natural tendency.
            Yet the guy above you thinks that Wlad is a heartless, stamina lacking, glass chinned bum and that he should retire. I guess what goes around comes around.

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            • Nautilus
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              #7
              The logic routinely applied to Wlad can be applied to many other good fighters: Byrd, Jirov, and others. The application of this logic, and the logic itself, are very subjective. There is no objectivity involved, and all of the claims, that purport to have an objective view on the problem, are unfair, to say the least.

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              • ChrististheAnswer
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                #8
                Originally posted by Neuraxis
                If Wlad should retire, I don't see why Byrd shouldn't also. Byrd is finished. He was owned in last two fights against a weak B level fighter Oquendo who hasn't beaten anyone and a shot Golota who has a loss to the biggest glass chin of them all, Michael Grant. Wlad and Byrd should fight each other, and the loser should retire.
                Byrd is finished? Byrd is the IBF heavyweight champion of the world. He lost to Oquendo by two points on my card and beat Golota by 2 points aloso on my card. Go back and watch both fights again, he wasn't owned in either fight they were close tough fights.

                Again the Wlad fans logic just doesn't make sense. Another case of bitter Wlad fans angry that the small Chris Byrd has become a legit world champion while their guy the "heir" to the HW thrown has been exposed by nobodies.

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                • techn9ne
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                  #9
                  yes on Nov 13 it is time for Byrd to retire in my humble opinion

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                  • hollister
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                    Yeah, I know how it feels, I can't stand James Toney, and I hate to see people still paying attention to him. I want someone to retire him so I won't have to hear about him anymore, but I will have to wait on that one. It's the same way for those who don't like the Klits, and I respect the fact that they don't like them, I just wish they would give at least a little credit where it's due. They want to harp on everything they do wrong, and always have long list of "It was against a nobody, he was lucky, it doesn't matter, he'll be exposed when he fights a real fighter" type posts when either of them does anything right. At least I admit that I hate Toney, and am still able to have a logical discussion about his chances in the division, some of these guys can't do that.
                    Last edited by hollister; 10-17-2004, 12:09 AM.

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