Are we high? How can this make you a P4P?

[TheEvilSaint]

Which is why Floyd wanted guys like DLH and Mosley as they are marquee names...the next closest to a marquee name for Floyd right now may be Mosley...

Cotto, Margarito and Hatton are probably his best bets for competition...but they are no Hagler, Hearns and Duran "NAMES" at the moment...

but I think he should fight them for his legacy...

there was no controversy surrounding his "victory" vs Judah...he clearly beat DLH in a very close fight in my opinion...and he avenged his near loss to Castillo

there was no doubt he beat judah, but this was after judah lost about 90% of his luster after he lost to baldomir, judah was no longer "the man" to beat. that fight happend simply because they were already signed to fight and floyd wanted to show that he could still beat judah.

thats just it about the oscar fight: it was close. if floyd wanted to show he was the better fighter, it shouldn't have been so close. maybe a decision like a clear 115-113 or 116-112 where floyd clearly won but oscar put up a good fight. i had that fight at a 114-114 draw.

if floyd REALLY wanted to fight mosley, he could. mosley doesnt need the fight, his legacy is all but in place in the history books. floyd's has a legacy of a "dollar-fighter", a fighter who fights for the dollar and has the dollar make his decisions. if the money's "not right" (in floyd's mind) or if he isnt getting enough, the fight doesnt happen. a clean win over mosley would clear up a lot of questions.

maybe, instead of fighting hatton, he should fight winky. boring fight, though.

[lordsmd]

Floyd beat bums who are fighting even lesser fighters today. Except for Judah.

Gatti is fighting Alfonso Gomez. LMAO!

Baldomir? Old and in a retirement home. Should have been retired about 6 years ago.

Judah. Destroyed by Cotto.

De La Hoya. Old rich bastard got richer by fighting the running man. He knew this fight was no risk to him. Should stay retired.
ODLH and PBF could fight for 60 rounds and both would come out with no more than a black eye.
****ing thieves.

Sharmba Mitchell OLD.

Henry Bruseles? Who knows this motha ****a?

DeMarcus Corley, destroyed by Cotto.

Phillip N'dou? Philip and Who? Who the **** is this cat? Is this the guy that is fighting Maligf@ggi?

Victoriano Sosa, destroyed by Cotto.

Jose Luis Castillo II got owned by Floyd yes.

Jose Luis Castillo 1 Beat Mayweather but they gave the fight to the little monkey.

This legacy is a joke.

Where are the Haglers? The Hearns? The Durans? on Floyds record?

Did Floyd unify anything?
What division did he clean up?

Pound for Pound?

**** me.

You bring up an excellent point; I guess we have to put our hearts on Cotto or wait for Chavez JR to move up the ranks (hoping he is the real thing).

Another thing...
it's cool to root and defend your favorite fighter, but when the guy don't do much but stick and run, I'm not sure I can him P4P. Yes I'm talking about PBF, Boxing is not about defense only (PBF) or offense alone either (Ponce de Leon or Baldomir), you got to have a plan which includes both... but what do I know, right. PBF claims that in DLH vs PBF II he is really going to fight since he doesn't have anything to lose; well I guess we'll have to wait and see, but DLH has proved himself in the past but PBF hasn't. I want to see a second fight between those two.
Raffa

[Cletus Funk]

And how do you know this? there is a thread about when people started supporting mayweather, most of the people on here supported him from scratch, i think someone was hot on him even in the amatuers.

But yeah i get your point.

I know this because I've been on here quite a while. Some of his most vociferous supporters on here weren't all over him until after the Gatti fight, which coincided with him succeeding Nard as the p4p #1 (in most peoples eyes). It's quite amusing to see how many of them registered around that time too.

[TheEvilSaint]

You bring up an excellent point; I guess we have to put our hearts on Cotto or wait for Chavez JR to move up the ranks (hoping he is the real thing).

Another thing...
it's cool to root and defend your favorite fighter, but when the guy don't do much but stick and run, I'm not sure I can him P4P. Yes I'm talking about PBF, Boxing is not about defense only (PBF) or offense alone either (Ponce de Leon or Baldomir), you got to have a plan which includes both... but what do I know, right. PBF claims that in DLH vs PBF II he is really going to fight since he doesn't have anything to lose; well I guess we'll have to wait and see, but DLH has proved himself in the past but PBF hasn't. I want to see a second fight between those two.
Raffa

floyd has PLENTY to lose.

[Technical_Skill]

But Floyd edges both Pacquaio and Calzaghe right now, who are the only comparably talented boxers

See when he talks like this, i hope he is just trying to wind me up, Kay Jay let me know if you were serious about this comment, and ill pass you the number for the Samaritians, its confidential and 24 hours a day.

[gixxer]

Floyd beat bums who are fighting even lesser fighters today. Except for Judah.

Gatti is fighting Alfonso Gomez. LMAO!

Baldomir? Old and in a retirement home. Should have been retired about 6 years ago.

Judah. Destroyed by Cotto.

De La Hoya. Old rich bastard got richer by fighting the running man. He knew this fight was no risk to him. Should stay retired.
ODLH and PBF could fight for 60 rounds and both would come out with no more than a black eye.
****ing thieves.

Sharmba Mitchell OLD.

Henry Bruseles? Who knows this motha ****a?

DeMarcus Corley, destroyed by Cotto.

Phillip N'dou? Philip and Who? Who the **** is this cat? Is this the guy that is fighting Maligf@ggi?

Victoriano Sosa, destroyed by Cotto.

Jose Luis Castillo II got owned by Floyd yes.

Jose Luis Castillo 1 Beat Mayweather but they gave the fight to the little monkey.

This legacy is a joke.

Where are the Haglers? The Hearns? The Durans? on Floyds record?

Did Floyd unify anything?
What division did he clean up?

Pound for Pound?

**** me.

DAMN BRO GREAT POINT.................................HE AINT DID **** THAT LITTLE MONKEY MAYWEATHER

[Don Johnson]

you can really "break" down anyone's list in a negative way....

Pacman:

Old metal plate head Barrera

Lost to Morales

Beat an old Morales twice

Draw with Marquez when many think he actually lost

Decision vs an old Larios who moved up two weight classes and is just a volume puncher

Who is 3k battery?

Who is Hector Velasquez?

Who is Solis?

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Winky

Lost to Vargas

Beat up a little Mosley

Jabs an out of shape and seemingly smaller Tito off of retirement and inactivity

Draw with a technically flawed Taylor

Struggle with a welterweight Quartey

Since when was Sam Soliman great?
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You can bash or glorify any record

Damn HBO said that Winky dominated Quartey . Ike wasn't doing that bad.

[Tony628]

Couldn't agree more. He's the Manchester Utd of US boxing. You won't see bitches like Fuego for dust when he loses.

more like chelsea, his boring style gets him the wins

[Cletus Funk]

more like chelsea, his boring style gets him the wins

Not this year

[Technical_Skill]

more like chelsea, his boring style gets him the wins

Chelsea arent that bad, they are just good defensively,

For anyone who is interested, Thierry Henry may have agreed to join Barcelona.

The italian press say Samuel Eto'o is in contact with Ac Milan ( i doubt that one)

And David Trezuguet is leaving Juventus, Juventus apparently have an agreement with Klass Jan Hunterlaar although a friend of mine told me Hunterlaar doesnt think he is ready for serie a at this stage and wants another season in holland.