Cotto's Low Blows?

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  • fluent2332
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    #41
    the interesting thing about the fight is that ZAB stopped punching WELL BEFORE any significant body shots were landed by cotto. even up to round 4 the HBO crew (merchant was VERY biased against ZAB, by the way) were saying how cotto hasn't gotten his body attack started yet like he usually does. so saying the body shots of cotto stopped judah from throwing punches is WRONG. thats why the low blows seem like they could have had more impact then we think, cause it sure as hell wasn't the body shots, and I'm not 100% convinced it was cotto's pressure, although he puts great pressure on there were PLENTY of opportunities to hit him that ZAB should have taken advantage of but didn't

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    • Addison
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      #42
      Originally posted by Left2body
      Sure will.

      At 1:27 judah threw a flurry and 1 clean punch landed. Cotto wasn't additionally hurt by it. Judah only hurt Cotto with Counters when Cotto was coming in or leaning in.

      Immediately after that Judah backs away and in the next exchange Cotto lands a right hook to the body and the low blow while coming forward and initiating the action.

      Can you do me a favor and tell me in what part of round 3 was Cotto in such trouble that he needed to land a low blow?
      AHAHAhaaaa! You saw it didn't you!!??

      I see the way you tried to side-step this..

      Don't change the subject.

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      • the330ballers
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        #43
        i think he made the excuse to himself right after the low blows occured that he was gonna lose because of them and thats why he did. he was very quick to point out that the "low blows took a lot out of him" in the post fight interview.

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        • Alien_Tanks
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          #44
          Originally posted by Addison
          I'll say it again:

          At 1:27 of round one we can see Cotto attempt to throw the first low blow directly downward at Judah's cup with the right hand.

          This is about 10 seconds before he catches Judah for the first time on the cup with the left hook..


          Again, Cotto throws a right hand aimed directly downward with his back against the ropes as Judah flurries at 1:27.
          You are phuking tripping but it just so happens I am working on that video right now and I have the clip. I will post it in slow motion for your ass so you can shut up.

          Cotto is known for his body attack just cus you see him going for the body dont mean he is going for the nuts. That is not his style.

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          • Left2body
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            #45
            Originally posted by Addison
            I'll say it again:

            At 1:27 of round one we can see Cotto attempt to throw the first low blow directly downward at Judah's cup with the right hand.

            This is about 10 seconds before he catches Judah for the first time on the cup with the left hook..


            Again, Cotto throws a right hand aimed directly downward with his back against the ropes as Judah flurries at 1:27.
            NO WAY watch it in again in slow motion. Cotto lands it squarely on the belt. Directly on the Zab sign to exact.

            Can you respond to my question? When in the 3rd round was Cotto hurt that he needed to land a low blow for a moment of respite?

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              #46
              Originally posted by Alien_Tanks
              Well Addison, I wont deny it was a tad low but and this is where it becomes a bit questionable.

              Judah's delayed reaction sort of made it look more like theatrics than pain.
              It's as though he had to almost think about it and then go down.

              If you touch a hot coal, you dont have to think about wether or not you got burned.

              If you get hit low would someone have such a delayed reaction?

              Did you see how Judah was trying to get the ref to call kidney punches that were not kidney punches?

              Judah wanted to win this fight just as much as Cotto.

              Judah wanted to try trickery and win hopefully on points and a decision by getting Miguel into trouble with point deductions and or Judah wanted to win by One punch. That famous upper cut works on many but it did not work on Miguel.

              I sort of hope Miguel did hit Judah intentionally the second time.
              Hit him for good measure and give him a real reason to cry.
              Like saying you want to fake low blows? Like Corley? Here you go.

              Judah did it to Mayweather and what is good for the goose, should be just as good for the gander.
              I totally agree Judah's reaction looked over the top..


              That's why I believe it was geniune.

              We still have to use common sense and logic.

              Why would Judah dive on the canvass??

              Even that idiot Mario Lopez said Judah was killing his own momentum.


              Guys, let's not forget - the low blow is designed to get the guy off you.

              Not to try to cheat to win the whole fight.

              I'm not saying Cotto was trying to soften Judah up with the foul..

              I'm saying Cotto may have saved himself from taking more damage in round 1 because of it.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Left2body
                NO WAY watch it in again in slow motion. Cotto lands it squarely on the belt. Directly on the Zab sign to exact.

                Can you respond to my question? When in the 3rd round was Cotto hurt that he needed to land a low blow for a moment of respite?
                Left, I said he ATTEMPTED to throw it.

                ATTEMPTED.


                .........We can see clearly that Cotto attempted to throw a right hand aimed directly downward at Judah's cup.

                It was BLATANT.


                I have to watch the fight consecutively up the point of the 3rd.

                I'll answer, Left.

                Just give me a sec.

                We'll get to the bottom of that one - but I have to tell you - that is the foul very few people question.

                We could see that there's very little chance it was an accident because of the camera angle..

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                • Addison
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Alien_Tanks
                  You are phuking tripping but it just so happens I am working on that video right now and I have the clip. I will post it in slow motion for your ass so you can shut up.

                  Cotto is known for his body attack just cus you see him going for the body dont mean he is going for the nuts. That is not his style.
                  Excellent, please do.

                  Post that clip so we can see Cotto attempt to throw his first low blow with a right hand aimed directly downward.

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                  • rickyisgood
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                    #49
                    Addison dont argue with the PR fans is going nowhere Im a amateur boxer with 50 fights I been hit in the balls countless of times. It hurts like a motha ***er. But dont believe me tell someone to punch you it the balls wait 30 minutes and see if you could still be as mobile it does have an effect.

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                    • STEELHEAD
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Addison
                      It seems after a little bit of scattered debate on the issue of the low blows that the people who have made an issue of them had Judah to win predominately.

                      It also seems like the folks who had Cotto to win think Judah was either acting, or not injured enough that the fouls caused any bearing on the outcome.


                      Nobody is being small minded about this are they?
                      i'm bias i admit. if my guy judah would of landed those blows i would of smiled. when cotto did it...That son of a b**ch...
                      it's a somewhat legal tactic that can work either by physical trauma or mental.
                      judah sure did become tentative with punch output.

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