should there just be belt in each weight class?

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  • RAESAAD
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    #11
    There should be 1 Champ in each division.......

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    • Ashyknuckles
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      #12
      It's already thousands of fighters, active, with good records that won't get an opportunity to fight for one of the alphabet titles. Eliminating the many titles won't solve this problem. There are hundreds of fighters out there (good fighters) the public will never know about.

      Sadly, these guys are the guys that don't have a high profile promoter so they have to take the fights they can get (fights on four day notice...or two week notice). Not to mention the fact that they still have to go through to rigors of making weight, on short notice, which physically drains them to the point where they can't fully perform on fight night.

      So what happens? They wins some and they lose some. And if they lose too many fights, they are labeled "journeymen" when they are actually pretty good fighters. And those fighters are then put in with prospects, they beat the **** out of the prospects, and it end up getting robbed of victory. And if not too many people see the fight, then no one puts up a fuss and that robbery goes down as another loss on the "journeyman's" record.

      Guys like Juan "Pollo" Valenzuela, Emanuel Augustus, Jose Morales etc etc

      Eliminating the titles won't solve boxing's problems guys.

      My answer is no.

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      • fluent2332
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        #13
        i voted no

        too many guys in each division for just one belt

        unification fights are exciting and determine the REAL champ

        more belts adds to the controversy which makes boxing more interesting

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        • Allucard
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          #14
          yes, but not only that. get promoters OUT OF THE WAY. they serve no porpose but to get richer. The organizations would promote the fights and fighters. fights would be logical. no more calzaghe vs NOBODY or kessler vs NOBODY. they would have to fight eachother. period. then winky or taylor or b hopp. will it happen? Hell no! Why? Because of us, boxing fans. Our boos and whatnot. the people feel the need to have a champion they identify with IT DOESNT MATTER WHETHER HE'S THE BEST OR NOT. We hurt the sport. Promoters do even worse. This has not yet killed boxing because of the sport's history.

          To sum it up:
          1st:
          One belt per weight class - If there are too many fighters which are decent (notice today these are considered great due to the 4 belts 8 weight classes system) this will only bring overal quality UP and we will have quality fights all year long!!

          2nd:
          No protecting of fighters - It doesnt matter whether this fighter is your favorite or your neighbour's (europe), they will have to fight. Or drop their belts. Injured? Need more time? Drop the belt, get in the end of the line and await your turn.

          3rd:
          Money - Now this really hurts boxing alot. fighters should be paid like in tennis. you win the tittle? get the dollars. 2nd place? get half. commercial endorsments would still be free, but no ppv cuts type of complete ****.

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          • Ashyknuckles
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            #15
            Originally posted by Allucard
            yes, but not only that. get promoters OUT OF THE WAY. they serve no porpose but to get richer. The organizations would promote the fights and fighters. fights would be logical. no more calzaghe vs NOBODY or kessler vs NOBODY. they would have to fight eachother. period. then winky or taylor or b hopp. will it happen? Hell no! Why? Because of us, boxing fans. Our boos and whatnot. the people feel the need to have a champion they identify with IT DOESNT MATTER WHETHER HE'S THE BEST OR NOT. We hurt the sport. Promoters do even worse. This has not yet killed boxing because of the sport's history.

            To sum it up:
            1st:
            One belt per weight class - If there are too many fighters which are decent (notice today these are considered great due to the 4 belts 8 weight classes system) this will only bring overal quality UP and we will have quality fights all year long!!

            2nd:
            No protecting of fighters - It doesnt matter whether this fighter is your favorite or your neighbour's (europe), they will have to fight. Or drop their belts. Injured? Need more time? Drop the belt, get in the end of the line and await your turn.

            3rd:
            Money - Now this really hurts boxing alot. fighters should be paid like in tennis. you win the tittle? get the dollars. 2nd place? get half. commercial endorsments would still be free, but no ppv cuts type of complete ****.

            Impossible. Boxing needs promoters, period. It takes money to bring a fighter up from scratch, especially if that fighter doesn't have an Olympic pedigree and/or some type of amateur background. A fighter with an Olympic pedigree can be sold to the public. Everyone loves a hometown hero. That's why we have Roy Jones, Mayweather, De La Hoya, Holyfield etc etc. What about the fighters who don't have that type of background? It takes money, time, and effort to build those guys up.

            The boxing organizations aren't in the business of spending their own money. They just collect money so fighters can represent their organization as "champion." And in turn, they collect more money from different promoters to sanction fights, which would guarantee their fighter's ascent up the rankings if fighter A continue to wins those fights.

            I can't see:
            1) Sanctioning organization writing bonus checks to highly touted amateurs turning pro. (A reason for promoters)

            2) Spending more money promoting them in effort to create a public buzz which would make it easier to put asses in seats at fighting venues. (A reason for promoters)

            3) Carefully choosing opponents for them so they get seasoned and acclimated with the professional ranks. (A reason for promoters)

            4) And then rank the fighters in order to fight for the title.

            It's impossible, or it would be even more corruption then it is today. Why? Because those same organizations who supposedly promote every fighter, under their organization, would spend more money, time, effort promoting the fighter with the biggest pubic appeal. And just because a fighter can put asses in seats doesn't mean that fighter is the best in the division. If that were true, there would be no Floyd Mayweather.

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