de la Hoya's record

[Hydro]

Now you are correct with the DLH/B-Hop comparisons...there are none to make..But at the same time his may be world class but he could never pull out the big one..He did fight them all I must say..His record may be diiferent had he not left 140-147...

His career probably wouldn't have been as good because he would've lost to lesser opponents by being half-dead from making weight.

He outgrew 140 pretty quickly in his career and by his own admission, had trouble making 147 in 1999 against Trinidad...having to take everything off to make 147.

He did fight 3 more times there before moving up, but his body probably outgrew it.

[-Hyperion-]

Ike Quartey -oscar won
Felix Sturm - ive seen it again and now i think oscar won
Pernell Whitaker - oscar won

Shane Mosley - oscar lost
Shane Mosley 2 -oscar won
Felix Trinidad - oscar ****ing won
Floyd Mayweather Jr. - oscar won.

record 41-2 losses to hopkins, mosley and i could accept maybe aloss to mayweather, but nothing more....

[Macho_Time]

Ike Quartey -oscar won
Felix Sturm - ive seen it again and now i think oscar won
Pernell Whitaker - oscar won

Shane Mosley - oscar lost
Shane Mosley 2 -oscar won
Felix Trinidad - oscar ****ing won
Floyd Mayweather Jr. - oscar won.

record 41-2 losses to hopkins, mosley and i could accept maybe aloss to mayweather, but nothing more....

^^^^^WOW, nuthugging at its finest.

[DLT]

How can you guys diss Hopkins and kiss up to Oscar? Hopkins has fought RJ, Taylor twice, Tarver, will soon fight Winky, fought Tito, Oscar, and underrated guys like a prime Echols. That resume is no joke. He might didnt fight the big names early but there really wasnt nobody to fight. Its not like he had super names around him.

How can you rip Hopkins when Oscar's resume is even more overrated. Ive always said that he got too much credit for his fights. He fought an old Chaves, he fought a way past his prime Sweet Pea who he was way bigger then, he fought Mosley after Shane basically jumped 2 weight classes just to fight him, he fought Vargas after Tito clearly ruined him, he fought Mosley again but only because he lost the 1st fight, and he fought a fight against Hopkins that half the people thought he threw the fight in.

His only real big fight is the Tito fight but that isnt super special because both guys were basically undefeated, in there prime, in the same division, and both were huge stars. That was a obvious fight that anyone wouldve took. He fought Floyd but he knew that he was much bigger then Floyd just like he knew about Mosley. You guys are trying to say that Hopkins fought smaller guys but so did Oscar. Thats why he took alot of those fights. Ill give him some credit for the Quartey fight but Ike was just coming off a draw where he got dropped twice so he looked flawed and vulnerable.

Then you also have to think about how he performed, which wasnt great in nearly all of those fights. You do have to win some of the big ones

[tredh]

How can yall critize PBF for fighting a past his prime De la Hoya when the 2 biggest names on De la Hoya's list were old and past they're primes. Now on to the subject. De la Hoya lost to Swet Pea, Mosely once, Ike Quartey, B-HOP, and Mayweather. I want to see the 2nd Mosely fight again and I never saw the Felix Strum fight. From what I remember about the Trinidad fight I think a draw would have been the best outcome. The Mayweather fight was not even close I am getting tired of hearing that **** was a close fight PBF made De la Hoya miss all night. I was at the fight that **** wasn't close.

[bdevils]

As everyone knows there are both very controversial wins on his record, and equally controversial losses. What do you see his record as?


Controversial Wins:
Ike Quartey
Felix Sturm
Pernell Whitaker

Controversial Losses:
Shane Mosley
Shane Mosley
Felix Trinidad
Floyd Mayweather Jr.


I have de la Hoya at 41-2-0, with Wins over Shane twice, Felix and Floyd, and losing to Bernard and Sturm.

How do you got it?

Those two fights are not controversial he clearly lost them.

[Eno]

Wins:
Ike Quartey
Felix Trinidad

Losses:
Felix Sturm
Shane Mosley 1 &2
Floyd
Pernell Whitaker

Record 37-6

[Slotff]

Those two fights are not controversial he clearly lost them.

Lots of people dispute them. And both fights were Split Descisions.

[bdevils]

Lots of people dispute them. And both fights were Split Descisions.

There is noway the FLoyd fight should of been a split decision. Oscar didn't win no more than 4 rds.

[-Antonio-]

I thought he lost eight rounds of the Quartey fight.

Lost to Quartey, beat Whitaker, beat Trinidad, lost to Mayweather, I never saw the Sturm fight and dont take it seriously because he was obviously fat and out of shape and shouldnt have been fighting at 160 anyway. And he beat Mosley the second fight.