BETTER PERFORMANCE? Diaz or Pavlik?

[GunStar]

How can anyone pick an unproven fighter knocking out another unproven fighter over a legitimate champion knocking out a former champion who had only been stopped by Diego Corrales?

You guys on the Pavlik train are a TRIP, I tell ya. A TRIP.

You all claiming he is so good are no different than the Miranda fans hyping their boy for knocking out Howard Eastman, getting outboxed by a guy with a broken jaw (even Ken Norton didn't get outboxed by MUHAMMAD ALI when Ali had a broken jaw!!!!), and stopping Allan Green, who was almost stopped by a freakin JOURNEYMAN on FRIDAY NIGHT FIGHTS. This is ridiculous.

Pavlik deserves credit for knocking everyone out, but he still hasn't accomplished anything relevant. He's winning, which is all he can do right now, and it's not his fault if the middleweight "champs" don't fight him, so I'm not knocking him for what he's done. I'm knocking all of you for jumping the gun.

This is a great post, if you think Pavlik had the better win, then just read this post.

[DiegoFuego]

Right but I expected Diaz to win and win quite comfortably.
I wasnt sure about Pavlik but he absolutly dominated and blew his opponent out of the water.

You don't think Diaz dominated Freitas? I gave Freitas 2 rounds and even those were close.

So let me ask you this: is it more impressive for Mayweather to defeat DLH or more impressive for Bradley to beat Camarena on SHObox here tonight? Because everyone thought Mayweather would beat De La Hoya, but SHObox fights are toss ups generally. Bradley dominated every round of the fight against Camarena. See my point?

Who cares if Pavlik dominated and destroyed a guy who was a mystery and turned out to be no good at all. We know DLH is good because he's proven it time and time again like Freitas has.

[Steelhammer86]

Who cares if Pavlik dominated and destroyed a guy who was a mystery and turned out to be no good at all.

Are you saying that it doesn't matter who Pavlik beats, he's no good because he's white? You seem VERY biased against white boxers.

[Easy-E]

You don't think Diaz dominated Freitas? I gave Freitas 2 rounds and even those were close.

So let me ask you this: is it more impressive for Mayweather to defeat DLH or more impressive for Bradley to beat Camarena on SHObox here tonight? Because everyone thought Mayweather would beat De La Hoya, but SHObox fights are toss ups generally. Bradley dominated every round of the fight against Camarena. See my point?

Who cares if Pavlik dominated and destroyed a guy who was a mystery and turned out to be no good at all. We know DLH is good because he's proven it time and time again like Freitas has.

Miranda was a semi proven opponent and the winner of this fight gets a shot at the title.
these are guys with talent, whether you acknowledge it or not.
Diaz beat Freitas handily, but much of the fight was competitive. It was a great preformance by Diaz.
However, Pavlik dominated a war, landing huge clean effective shots, almost knocking Miranda down in the first, technically doing it in the second, winning every round on many peoples scorecards and knocking down Miranda 3 times.

You should remember that Freitas quit on his stool, he wasnt brutally knocked out like Miranda was. Also considering Pavlik was the underdog and so many people were all over Miranda's jockstrap.
Man it was a great ****ing preformance.

[DiegoFuego]

Are you saying that it doesn't matter who Pavlik beats, he's no good because he's white? You seem VERY biased against white boxers.

Did I say that? Read my post and try again. Unproven does not mean sucks where I come from, but whatever helps your start an accusation.

[DiegoFuego]

Miranda was a semi proven opponent and the winner of this fight gets a shot at the title.
these are guys with talent, whether you acknowledge it or not.
Diaz beat Freitas handily, but much of the fight was competitive. It was a great preformance by Diaz.
However, Pavlik dominated a war, landing huge clean effective shots, almost knocking Miranda down in the first, technically doing it in the second, winning every round on many peoples scorecards and knocking down Miranda 3 times.

You should remember that Freitas quit on his stool, he wasnt brutally knocked out like Miranda was. Also considering Pavlik was the underdog and so many people were all over Miranda's jockstrap.
Man it was a great ****ing preformance.

Miranda is not a good fighter whether you acknowledge it or not.

[CoLd_WaVE]

This is a great post, if you think Pavlik had the better win, then just read this post.

sorry bro but this thread is about the better performance and not about the better win.....

Pavlik performed better... many people were expecting for PAvlik to be blown away by Miranda....

[Easy-E]

Miranda is not a good fighter whether you acknowledge it or not.

He does what he needs to get done and there was a reason he was fighting for a shot at the middleweight championship.

[GunStar]

sorry bro but this thread is about the better performance and not about the better win.....

Pavlik performed better... many people were expecting for PAvlik to be blown away by Miranda....

Performance wise both did good, but you have to look at who fought the better boxer and that was easily Diaz.

I picked Pavlik to stop Miranda, but I'm also not that impressed with Pavlik, you put Pavlik against Taylor, Wright, Kessler and Hopkins he will lose to all 4 guys.

People are overhyping Pavlik now just the way people were overhyping Lacy and Miranda.

Pavlik fans will get in the very near future.

[DiegoFuego]

He does what he needs to get done and there was a reason he was fighting for a shot at the middleweight championship.

That's a useless argument. Tell me what Henry Akinwande was doing fighting for Lewis' WBC title. Tell me what Mzonke Fana was doing in the ring with Barrera. Sanctioning bodies throw anybody who looks appealing one moment in there and they get dusted the next. There is no rhyme or reason as to who gets the opportunities, but the good fighters make the most of them. Between the Abraham and Pavlik debacles, Miranda has failed miserably thus far. Not exactly the sign of a good fighter.