Mike Tyson: GREAT whether you like it or not

[K-Yo]

One of the most debated facts in boxing but the truth is he was a great, and i dont really think anyone would have been able to beat him in his prime especially Lewis one of those bombs on the chin and it would have been lights out, the jail stint definitely messed him up and changed the person he was. If he wants to fight on so what he is still one of the most exciting fighters to watch because you know anything can happen, what else is there left in the heavyweight division, and i do think he legitimately injured his knee otherwise he would have a fight scheduled he likes to stay active as he needs the money, i think he should schedule a rematch with Williams and see what happens if he loses again there should be no excuses and he should retire and if he wins he would be back in the mix and would prove he was injured in the first fight.

[Floydmayweather]

In his prime no body could beat Tyson. He lost focus and has had ups and downs but he is still an all time great. And who knows maybe he can still put some quality wins on his record before he goes out stranger things have happened in boxing.

[mick1punch]

tyson was quality posed a real talent knocking men out when he was 17 18
im english theres no boxer been like him best boxer he came up again is our own frank bruno

[Troy Fine]

tyson had the chance to be the greatest fighter of all time

[RoboHobo]

It seems all anyone does in this world is kick someone while there down. All anyone does is focus on the negatives of Mike Tyson's career. Which is normal because there has been alot of negativity. But what about the positive?
-Youngest Heavyweight Champion of all time
-revived Boxing when it was down
-Gave fans great highlights to salavge for years
-Reguardless of outcomes he fought the best heavyweights available. Sure journeymen to,but he fought Holmes, Spinks, Holyfield twice and Lennox Lewis. (also Razor Rud**** wasn't a bad fighter.)
-He brought alot of excitement to Boxing, I think alot of people would agree with me that Mike Tyson fights are usually very exciting to watch.
Had Mike Tyson not have screwed up so much in the last 10+ years he could have been the greatest. The Mike Tyson story is kind of like the movie Scarface as far as the moral goes. To me the theme of Scarface is when you get to much to soon some people do not know ho handle it. Mike Tyson had to much to soon just like Scarface and he lost it all in the end. Mike Tyson should be a lesson to young fighters coming up, saying when you become successful be careful of the people around and the things you do. Reguardless of what happens with the rest of his career whether your a fan or you hate him Mike Tyson's impact on the sport will forever be wrote in the pages of Boxing history. Mike Tyson's legend will eventually reside in Canastota, New York at the Boxing Hall Of Fame. The reason I wrote this thread is because I think people forget sometimes reguardless of his numerous mistakes he is a Boxing legend.

i decide whos great.....so stfu

[Truth]

i decide whos great.....so stfu

What did I do to you? I would love to know what I did to you? And why would you or anyone bring this old thread back? I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST YOU!!!I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU!!

[Slipx]

In a 20 year career Mike was great for 3 of those years. In my opnion he will go down as a wasted talent, a fighter who had it all and never fuffilled his potential and has now just become a side show.

laugh

I guess you didn't feel important enough with just 'jose' as your name..so you had to change it to Sir_Jose? funny stuff, lol.

I agree whole-heartedly about Tyson though

im sure douglas does as well

[Southpaw16]

The only man to beat Spinks.Holmes could not touch him.Power in both hands,and ungodly speed as a heavyweight.Read my signature,and Against Spinks that night ,he could of beat any heaveweight in history.

Power in both hands... ungodly speed as a heavyweight... both those statements are true.

There is a certain cliche that is said about boxing and other sports. Many people say it, and very few people seem to actually understand it. Boxing is 50% mental. It is a thinking man's sport.

People assume that Tyson in his prime was unbeatable because of his amazing speed and power. People are so sure that this was true, they come up with ridiculous excuses about Rooney being gone when they try to explain what happened against Buster Douglas. The truth is you really don't have to reach all that far to figure out why what happened happened against Douglas. Boxing is 50% mental. When he was in a tough fight, he didn't know how to react to it, how to change his game plan, how to pull out a win once a fight was not going as planned. It is really the same in all of his losses.

Even in his most recent loss to Kevin McBride, his speed and power were great. Look at the punches he was throwing, people say he lost because of diminished speed and reflexes, if you watch the tape you'll see that they were extremely hard fast punches. By the sixth McBride was still there and giving him trouble. All of a sudden he is only throwing one punch at a time, he is trying to break his arm and bite his nipple and then ultimately he sits down on the canvas and quits.

It is very simple why he wasn't unbeatable in his prime despite his unbelievable speed and power, once again, boxing is 50% mental. He had the physical side to it, he never had the mental side to it. His speed and power were only half of the equation necessary to be a great fighter. And digging down deep to pull out a win against Douglas was not something that Kevin Rooney could have done for him, regardless of what a lot of people think, he could only do that for himself.

Tyson lost every fight that he ever had when his physical abilities weren't quite enough. Douglas was simply the first man to hang in long enough to make him try to reach past his physical abilities, and when that happened, the mental skills and toughness necessary to win a tough fight weren't there.

Tyson is an alltime great fighter, he had the greatest physical abilities in the history of boxing, he was one of the most exciting and intriguing of alltime, but he was never unbeatable, at any point in his career for the very simple reason that I will repeat for the millionth time: boxing is 50% mental.

[Southpaw16]

One more thing. I know there is going to be a lot of people arguing that he was unbeatable until he fired Kevin Rooney, there always are. To those people, I challenge you to answer this question: Why has this man with an IQ of 160 never decided to rehire Rooney at any point in his career, even long after his King associations were severed.

If Rooney was what truly held everything together, why has he never gone back to him? At any time all it would have taken was one phone call, because Rooney sure as hell wasn't too busy handling all of the other big name fighters he supposedly developed

[adeelr]

It seems all anyone does in this world is kick someone while there down. All anyone does is focus on the negatives of Mike Tyson's career. Which is normal because there has been alot of negativity. But what about the positive?
-Youngest Heavyweight Champion of all time
-revived Boxing when it was down
-Gave fans great highlights to salavge for years
-Reguardless of outcomes he fought the best heavyweights available. Sure journeymen to,but he fought Holmes, Spinks, Holyfield twice and Lennox Lewis. (also Razor Rud**** wasn't a bad fighter.)
-He brought alot of excitement to Boxing, I think alot of people would agree with me that Mike Tyson fights are usually very exciting to watch.
Had Mike Tyson not have screwed up so much in the last 10+ years he could have been the greatest. The Mike Tyson story is kind of like the movie Scarface as far as the moral goes. To me the theme of Scarface is when you get to much to soon some people do not know ho handle it. Mike Tyson had to much to soon just like Scarface and he lost it all in the end. Mike Tyson should be a lesson to young fighters coming up, saying when you become successful be careful of the people around and the things you do. Reguardless of what happens with the rest of his career whether your a fan or you hate him Mike Tyson's impact on the sport will forever be wrote in the pages of Boxing history. Mike Tyson's legend will eventually reside in Canastota, New York at the Boxing Hall Of Fame. The reason I wrote this thread is because I think people forget sometimes reguardless of his numerous mistakes he is a Boxing legend.

the title should read
Mike Tyson was great