James Toney Shows Little in Split Decision Win

[paul750]

Someone may do to him what he did to Holyfield. I certainly wouldn't be surprised.

[Derranged]

Someone may do to him what he did to Holyfield. I certainly wouldn't be surprised.

I agree.

I dont think Toney would fare well against top competition anymore; Wladimir would just annihilate him at this point.

[Red_Menace]

Must not have been Freddie Roach training him. I'm sure he didn't work as hard for this fight as he had for others. When you get real fat and drop a lot of muscle mass, it's hard to get it back. Toney may weigh less now, but some of that is probably loss of muscle, and he may actually be fatter. He's going to have a rough time getting back into fighting shape at his age.

[EliteSoldier]

the difference in performance is stark ever since he got busted for steroids!!!!

Well, he definitely needed steroids to improve though. He's a fat ****, and steroids will help lean him out and help build muscle at the same time. He's not a natural heavyweight and he's definitely in the wrong weight class.

[Steelhammer86]

He came in at 229, the lowest since he fought Holyfield but was still out of shape. Something doesn't seem right?

For even a very muscular man of 5'9'', a weight of 229 is much too heavy. I'm 5'9'' and naturally thick-boned and muscular, but I used to fight best at super middleweight or light heavyweight, and I'm much slower when I'm over 200 pounds. Toney is not a natural heavyweight, and for certain 229 is much too heavy for him.

It's just a theory, but thought he was shaken up mentally by Samuel Peter's rabbit punches early in the last fight. Peter is very strong, and rabbit punches are known to cause brain damage.

[paul750]

For even a very muscular man of 5'9'', a weight of 229 is much too heavy. .

You've forgot a guy named David Tua. If Tua got to 229 that would be great. Generally speaking it's too much though. I just decided to be pedantic. It looks like Toney is finished regardless of what weight he comes in at, but we will ''weight'' and see.

[-Antonio-]

Well, he definitely needed steroids to improve though. He's a fat ****, and steroids will help lean him out and help build muscle at the same time. He's not a natural heavyweight and he's definitely in the wrong weight class.

He was a fat mess against Ruiz, and that was the fight in which he tested positive. He had his ass crack hanging out and everything. The roids were for his arm injury. Roids arent going to help him slip punches and counter.