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  • #21
    I think Pavlik will be overhyped to a degree but he is still a really good fighter and possibly a p4p material.

    Same will go with Miranda, people will sleep on him but he will come up with a big win.

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    • #22
      Right, overhyped.

      1 win over a guy who about a year ago was asking people if they wanted to Jumbo size their meal, the other a tailor made opponent who showed less defense than Gatti would if he fought at 2:00 A.M. after drinking all night.

      Miranda is my boy but he just stands there and trades, how is that going to work against a guy who plods forward and throws straight punches?

      Anyways Taylor will expose him really bad. I wouldn't put it past Pavlik being stopped in the early rounds either after taking a nasty beating.



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      • #23
        Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
        Right, overhyped.

        1 win over a guy who about a year ago was asking people if they wanted to Jumbo size their meal, the other a tailor made opponent who showed less defense than Gatti would if he fought at 2:00 A.M. after drinking all night.

        Miranda is my boy but he just stands there and trades, how is that going to work against a guy who plods forward and throws straight punches?

        Anyways Taylor will expose him really bad. I wouldn't put it past Pavlik being stopped in the early rounds either after taking a nasty beating.
        Based on Taylor's style(or more like a total lack of it) I think that Pavlik will beat him, unless Manny injects him with some methamphetamine and Taylor finally shows some aggression. I think the man to beat Pavlik is Hopkins. Now, now don't laugh at me, but I think Hops will give miranda so many angles boy will get lost in his own arms. Blow would also whip him.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by BrooklynBomber View Post
          Based on Taylor's style(or more like a total lack of it) I think that Pavlik will beat him, unless Manny injects him with some methamphetamine and Taylor finally shows some aggression. I think the man to beat Pavlik is Hopkins. Now, now don't laugh at me, but I think Hops will give miranda so many angles boy will get lost in his own arms. Blow would also whip him.
          If the Taylor that threw murderous combination after combination against Wink shows up.......Pavlik won't last more than 3 or 4 rounds.

          Wink blocked those punches and his face still was swollen from the damage. Pavlik has zero defense whatsoever and is a monolithic plodding target for Taylor to make an example of based on his pure athletic punching.

          If anything Taylor might be boring, but he's one of the most athletic fighters in boxing, maybe the most.



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          • #25
            Originally posted by BrooklynBomber View Post
            Based on Taylor's style(or more like a total lack of it) I think that Pavlik will beat him, unless Manny injects him with some methamphetamine and Taylor finally shows some aggression. I think the man to beat Pavlik is Hopkins. Now, now don't laugh at me, but I think Hops will give miranda so many angles boy will get lost in his own arms. Blow would also whip him.
            winky would beat all those guys except maybe blow.......................

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            • #26
              Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
              If the Taylor that threw murderous combination after combination against Wink shows up.......Pavlik won't last more than 3 or 4 rounds.

              Wink blocked those punches and his face still was swollen from the damage.
              That's the thing, I think that if Taylor would fight him the way he fought winky(not a stellar performance by any means) he would just get backed down and beat up with all these straight punches. Against a guy like Pavlik, a durable workhorse type, it is dumb to box him the way he likes people to box him.. Pavlik, imo, is very prone to getting outboxed and if Taylor could pick his spots throw a one-two and move he can do it. He is durable enough to do that. Maybe even up the pressure in the later rounds a la Wlad but I am not sure if he is capable of it. The key to beating pavlik is picking angles and workrate. Stick that jab in his face and don't let him find balance.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by -Hyperion- View Post
                winky would beat all those guys except maybe blow.......................
                I would eye**** winky.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
                  If the Taylor that threw murderous combination after combination against Wink shows up.......Pavlik won't last more than 3 or 4 rounds.

                  Wink blocked those punches and his face still was swollen from the damage. Pavlik has zero defense whatsoever and is a monolithic plodding target for Taylor to make an example of based on his pure athletic punching.

                  If anything Taylor might be boring, but he's one of the most athletic fighters in boxing, maybe the most.
                  Pavliks not gonna just be standing there. HIs offense is his defense. Taylor CAN NOT win this fight by throwing just cominations. His jab has to be deadly.

                  On his best night, Taylors jab is very good at best. But its not a WInky Jab, thats gonna keep a all out pressure fighter like Pavlik at bay all night.

                  Ive watched 6 or 7 pavlik fights recently, and Pavlik has all the tools to win this fight.

                  TAYLOR is just as ovverated as Pavlik is, and Pavlik isnt that overrated.

                  Hear me out here. When i look back the careers of overhyped fighters like a Jeff Lacy, u notice things. Like i just wached PEMPERTON-LACY, and even thought Lacy dominated the fight, you could clearly tell that if someone with some boxing talent got in the ring with Lacy, it wouldnt last long. At the time we were all to high on him to realize it, but now we all ask ourselves how we DIDNT see it.

                  Not the case with Pavlik. He's been in with guys like Taylor, but far less talented, and he manhandled the technique and, as seems to always be the case with Pavlik, he scored the knockout.

                  Taylor may be able to keep Pavlik off for a couple of rounds, but eventually Pavlik will reach him. Pavlik has a good jab of his own and is a great combination puncher. We've never seen Taylor in a fight where his opponent has to no fear of getting hit, and throws back even.

                  Ive looked at it every way, and i hope they make Pavlik the underdog cause i really think he wins this fight. not easily though

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by BrooklynBomber View Post
                    Based on Taylor's style(or more like a total lack of it) I think that Pavlik will beat him, unless Manny injects him with some methamphetamine and Taylor finally shows some aggression. I think the man to beat Pavlik is Hopkins. Now, now don't laugh at me, but I think Hops will give miranda so many angles boy will get lost in his own arms. Blow would also whip him.
                    Originally posted by BrooklynBomber View Post
                    I would eye**** winky.
                    i would nostril **** you.....

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by -Hyperion- View Post
                      i would nostril **** you.....
                      Maybe, if you had a ****.











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