Who's the best middleweight in the world??

[Kayjay's Ghost]

The De La Hoya fight was fixed, they became partners a week later and De La Hoya should've won the academy arawds.

Yea just like America was part of 9/11.

Geronim

[GunStar]

Geronim

I'm gonna make you red now kaygay.

[Kayjay's Ghost]

I'm gonna make you red now kaygay.

You mean you're gonna change my karma bar, or make me blush?

[GunStar]

Still in the record books. Even if Oscar kept fighthing it would have gotten worse. Do you agree? Because De La Hoya was bound to get tired and Hopkins was imposing his strength later on in that fight.

After reading that interview Steward is right. Taylor need to fight a couple of bumbs to fix his weaknesses. I still don't understand if he was so good in training camp why the poor fight.

I can't say I had it 4-4 after 8, Oscar can box so I really don't know what would've happen.

Just to let you know KO's doesn't make you great!

[GunStar]

You mean you're gonna change my karma bar, or make me blush?

both!

[cortdawg25]

Based on Taylor's last two performances and Pavlik's last two performances I'll g with Pavlik. More impressive in the two showed great agression and hunger in the ring. I thought Taylor was hungry early for the KO against Ouma. But in the Spinks bout he was very lackluster. Was rarely agressive and embarrased himself somewhat.

Who did they fight last? I don't think Zaertuche or Miranda is quite on the skill level of Ouma or Spinks despite their size. Pavlik vs Miranda was cool, but you people jump on somebodies tip way too fast. Miranda was far from a great fighter and his bark was always bigger than his bite. As soon as someone fought him back we saw what happened, now that is what i call exposed.

[Kobe Bryant]

Who did they fight last? I don't think Zaertuche or Miranda is quite on the skill level of Ouma or Spinks despite their size. Pavlik vs Miranda was cool, but you people jump on somebodies tip way too fast. Miranda was far from a great fighter and his bark was always bigger than his bite. As soon as someone fought him back we saw what happened, now that is what i call exposed.

What are you talking about? I just said I liked his last two performances and he has performed better than Taylor. That doesn't mean I'm on his tip grow up.

[cortdawg25]

Hype has nothing to with it.......It who goes out there and fights to win and Taylor does not do that and would lose via KO to Miranda or Pavlik....talk about over hyped look at Taylor,very close and easily could have gone the other way decisions over Hopkins and then a loss that he snuck out with a draw against Winky and then two decisions one very close over LMWs Ouma and Spinks......calling Taylor the Champ is over hype at it finest.

Alll those people you named are better than any fighter that Miranda or Pavlik has fought, especially Pavlik comp. Winky and Bernard in the top 5 P4P for christ sake and Spinks is no slouch. Dude can box, can Pavlik or Miranda say they beat or drew with a Winky or Hopkins or Spinks. I doubt it.

[Tha_Greatest]

wheres sturm option?

I thought it was sturm but losing accidentally to Castillejo makes Sturm a bad choice

[cortdawg25]

Taylor is not really hated. He's just not especially good for a 'champ. I like him actually, I just can't see him winning many fights in the future. Pavlik, Abraham, Calzaghe, Wright, Kessler, etc. should be favored over him.

Floyd on the other hand is terrific, but I hate him.

Pavlik and Abraham won't be able to handle him. He is just too athletic for them and will be able to outbox them based off of that. I mean Miranda was landing shots on the both of them and he ain't the best combination puncher or the most accurate for that matter either. But the others I agree with you.