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  • cortdawg25
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    #91
    Originally posted by lefhooktodabody
    What are you talking about? I just said I liked his last two performances and he has performed better than Taylor. That doesn't mean I'm on his tip grow up.
    And my point was Who are these people who he looked so great against and i didn't say you were on his tip specifically, but i prolly was referring to you by the way you got all defensive.

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    • RAESAAD
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      #92
      Originally posted by cortdawg25
      Alll those people you named are better than any fighter that Miranda or Pavlik has fought, especially Pavlik comp. Winky and Bernard in the top 5 P4P for christ sake and Spinks is no slouch. Dude can box, can Pavlik or Miranda say they beat or drew with a Winky or Hopkins or Spinks. I doubt it.
      Winky and Hops are but Miranda has foguht real MWs like Eastman and Abraham and fared well doing so.......I am simply saying if there is a Cindarella story out their and any over hyping going on it is Jermain Taylor Not Pavlik or Miranda.Those two guys lay it all out in the ring no matter who they are fighting unlike Mr. Taylor.He can only get by on pure luck and half assed performances against LMWs so long....he will be beaten soon by a real fighter at his weight......Or imagin if he does go up to SMW to face calzaghe or what not when he still has'nt fought the best MWs out there......It would be like him jumping two weight classes based on his history lately.....

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      • cortdawg25
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        #93
        [QUOTE=RAESAAD;2383632]Winky and Hops are but Miranda has foguht real MWs like Eastman and Abraham and fared well doing so.......I am simply saying if there is a Cindarella story out their and any over hyping going on it is Jermain Taylor Not Pavlik or Miranda.Those two guys lay it all out in the ring no matter who they are fighting unlike Mr. Taylor.He can only get by on pure luck and half assed performances against LMWs so long....he will be beaten soon by a real fighter at his weight......Or imagin if he does go up to SMW to face calzaghe or what not when he still has'nt fought the best MWs out there......It would be like him jumping two weight classes based on his history lately.....[/QUOTE]

        You might be right but pavlik nor Miranda will be the one to beat him. pavlik is just to slow and Miranda is a brawler who will always lose to a boxer who isn't afraid to fight him...and that last line is real cute too

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        • Kobe Bryant
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          #94
          Originally posted by cortdawg25
          And my point was Who are these people who he looked so great against and i didn't say you were on his tip specifically, but i prolly was referring to you by the way you got all defensive.
          Not defensive at all. You quoted me so I'm assuming you were talking to me.

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          • Konstantin
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            #95
            Originally posted by McNulty
            They are "worker fighters." Look @ Reggies wins...his last few are all KO's. Dudes had like almost 400 fights...regardless if hes got like 246 losses...hes still a great...GAHA.

            I saw that phenomonon of his brother by accident one day. Crazy **** those guys.

            You know if Reggie is knocking you out its zero of a career for you.
            Check out this dude, he made a career out of fighting Reggie Strickland. he fought him 6 times...

            http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=005497
            Last edited by Konstantin; 05-25-2007, 02:49 PM.

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            • drvooh
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              #96
              Originally posted by FeelTheA-Force
              if it wasnt for miranda killing himself making weight, he would have knocked out pavlik the great "white hope" and would have disposed

              jermain "i cant knock out blow up welterweights" taylor
              dream on....excuses, excuses....Miranda was/is....

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              • drvooh
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                #97
                Originally posted by No1
                Your an ideot miranda would get beaten by pavlik even if he had no excuse of being dehydrated as pavlik is far more skilled and his punches are harder. Also miranda couldn't hurt pavlik with his punches
                Good Pernt...which is why you are NO 1

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                • drvooh
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Kayjay's Ghost
                  If you don't count Wright I think Abraham is the top dog, followed by Taylor and Pavlik. Maybe Abraham's people will come up with enough money to get Taylor in a unification fight? Probably not, given what Arum's saying about Pavlik.
                  I also voted Abraham

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                  • RAESAAD
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                    #99
                    [QUOTE=cortdawg25;2383637]
                    Originally posted by RAESAAD
                    Winky and Hops are but Miranda has foguht real MWs like Eastman and Abraham and fared well doing so.......I am simply saying if there is a Cindarella story out their and any over hyping going on it is Jermain Taylor Not Pavlik or Miranda.Those two guys lay it all out in the ring no matter who they are fighting unlike Mr. Taylor.He can only get by on pure luck and half assed performances against LMWs so long....he will be beaten soon by a real fighter at his weight......Or imagin if he does go up to SMW to face calzaghe or what not when he still has'nt fought the best MWs out there......It would be like him jumping two weight classes based on his history lately.....[/QUOTE]

                    You might be right but pavlik nor Miranda will be the one to beat him. pavlik is just to slow and Miranda is a brawler who will always lose to a boxer who isn't afraid to fight him...and that last line is real cute too
                    Taylor would not bring it to Miranda it would be the other way around.....In fact it would probably be like Taylor/Spinks was but Jermain would become the dancer.......

                    I said it before last weekend and I still think Miranda or Pavlik would beat Taylor.

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                    • Sweet Pea 50
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                      #100
                      Man this Miranda being weight drained **** is getting on my nerves... "But if Miranda would of been 165, he would of K.O. Pavlik..." bull****. Coulda, woulda, shoulda. The fight was on the agreed upon weight, if Miranda had problems making weight, thats not Pavliks problem. Mirandas PROBLEM is that he stepped in against a better fighter that night, and couldn't take the punishment. He got his ass WHOOPED. I hope Taylor does the right thing and fights Pavlik. The Pavlik vs Miranda fight was for Number 1 contender status. That has already been proven in the ring. But knowing boxing politics, Pavlik will get screwed. As of right now, Taylor gets my vote for best MW. I wouldn't be shocked at all if Pavlik OR Miranda beats JT though... Just my 2 pennies...

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