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I always have to come on and straighten everyone out. Tyson would definitly beat the Klitschkos, both of them. If Peter could and Brewster could...enough said.
Tyson would NOT have beaten a prime Lennix Lewis, no way, no how. Lewis was too strong and his jab alone would have given Tyson fits. Look at the long heavy's he had problems with, James Smith and Razor Rudduck.
Heavyweight division is a joke now for the most part and a prime Tyson would have alot of success. I still thin Tyson was very overrated and he lost to the best of his time, Holyfield and Lewis and you can't ever forget that.
About him losing his prime in jail, didn't Ali lose 3 years by being banned from the government? A great fighter always finds a way, that's what makes him great. Tyson was selfish, self indulgent and trashed the people that actually cared about him in his life. The people that wanted to help him and teach him he replaced with leaches that were there until the money ran out. Plain and simple, Tyson wasn't that bright..............Comment
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Saw Tyson last night on ch4 against was it james quick tyless or something like that when Tyson was 19. Tyson didnt look as dominant as i remember. He was taking some huge hooks that i cant remember him ever taking, on a way to a decision.
Not as menacing as i remember.Last edited by hugh grant; 05-23-2007, 09:22 AM.Comment
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Vitali klitschko and Lennox Lewis would have been the best bets to beat him.Comment
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You can't compare Tyson and Ali's lost years. Some guys just have longer 'primes' and others lose their physical attributes earlier. Like Hopkins is in his 40s and still looks good, while someone like Fernando Vargas is considered broke down at around 30.Comment
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The Lewis that lost to McCall was an underdeveloped Lewis, it wasn't until the Morrison fight that improvements started to become clear after his get together with Manny Stewart. I also feel that Lennox's defeats were partly due to complacency, especially against Rahman a fight which he did lose in his prime. Any fighter worth his salt took Mike Tyson very seriously and LL had the nous to do so, even in their 2002 bout.Comment
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Both Tyson and Rooney in an interview said that Mike was worried about not being able to go the distance/full 12 rounds. Mike needed to know that he could have enough energy in the later rounds so he hit the brakes a bit in order to prove to himself, build his confidence for future fights, that he too could go into the Championship Rounds without feeling tired. By the 11/12th round, Mike still felt strong, still had gas, and this is when he realized he was just fine; this would boost his confidence to the next level for future fights.
This fight and the interview with Tyson and Rooney about this fight is a clear example of Mike's continued progress to the title under the tutelage of Kevin Rooney.
Mike was building toward his peak for the title shot. In order to do this, one must work out the kinks before hand. This fight and the others before were simply that, working out the kinks, and building confidence of "Knowing Self."
Remember, we are talking about about a young man, not a fully matured man at this stage.
Mike did not have a whole lot of experience in the amatuers, despite being trained by Cus, Teddy, and Kevin.
The amount of fights leading up to the title were simply that, gaining experience, and making up for the lack of experience/fights in the amatuers.
How many fights did Tyson have as an amatuer, 35? somewhere around that.
Most people have 100+
Look at the majority, if not all athletes, their peak is not in their early 20's, except for some like Tennis and ****stars, it is later on, from 25+.Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-23-2007, 11:43 AM.Comment
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"Big Guys" are "Bigger and Better"
MMMM, except for their smilingly ****ty stamina in boxing when pressed to fight out of their comfort pace.
When the "Big Man" cannot control the pace of the fight, when forced to fight at the speed of the "little man", it seems the "Big Man" runs out of gas faster, at least in most of the cases I have watched.
This is where the Jab comes into play, a key weapon to help control the pace for the Big Man.
Lewis, Wlad, Vitaly, all have good jabs to help them, this is why they are not "tested", but to be fair, this is a credit to their size/physical gifts, advantage, etc.
However, look what happens when you force the fight to the big man, if you can take their punch, not get knocked out, etc.................
Example A, Wlad: I will not use his first loss as an example because that was more his doing than Purrity, but if you look at his fight with Brewster, Lamon hit Wlad to the body, over and over and despite what some may say was a drugging of Wlad (which I do not know), Brewsters clean body shots on the big torso of Wlad could of been the real reason of Wlad being exhausted.
Just think, what do you think is going to happen to a fighter that is being hit with clean shots to the ribs; he will tire, become exhausted.
Big guys also seem to lack the proper defensive skill that smaller fighters have, although there are some big men that have decent blocking skills.
The majority of Big guys are also not as agile as the smaller guys, and when they are forced to fight in awkward positions, they become a bit clumsy and expose openings more often.
Big Guys also have to hit to the head since they are usually to tall to hit to the body on their much smaller opponent.
I would also like to point to the avoidance of Lennox not fighting Chris Byrd and Emanuel’s latest comments of why he did not want Taylor to fight Spinks: because Spinks will make anybody look bad. A good, skilled, smaller man can make a bigger man look foolish, like a Man trying to catch a Fly.
Take for example basketball: Allen Iverson cuts bigger guys up left and right because they cannot move as fast, as agile as the smaller Iverson.
Tyson’s bobbing and weaving is problematic for any fighter, including tall fighters.
I always hear this argument, “Tyson has problems with Taller Fighters.”
Well, Who Is Not Taller Than MIKE TYSON?
In addition, look at those fights, the Taller fighter tends to want to Hatton, Tyson all night.
Tyson’s style needs his opponent to fight back in order to leave open targets.
When a fighter fights to survive, just keeps his guard up all night, and holds at every possible chance, of course someone like Mike is not going to look great.
Mike has the ability to beat anybody in modern boxing history, but there are also those matchups that would be very tough.Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-23-2007, 12:35 PM.Comment
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