Man i love oscar de la hoya BUT

[Hydro]

your right, i thought quartey won that fight also.

De La Hoya did too little from rounds 7 to 11, and even lost round 6 when both went down b/c Quartey did the better work after the 2 KDs.

The judges were probably drunk or on the take that night to have him winning by 4 points.

[Hydro]

The one problem I saw in DLH career was he wasn't relentless. I was watching ringside the other day and it was on Sugar Ray Leonard. They showed his fight vs Robert Duran, the first one and I saw Duran do what DLH should have done vs PBF.

DLH never had that killer instinct the way other fighters have had in the past. He was too "pretty" at times and I think that hurt him in his career. Over all he will still go down as a great fighter.

Oscar was a different type of fighter though. Duran was an amazing swarmer who could slip shots so well while coming forward or roll with them. De La Hoya has solid parrying ability, but he's not as good with his head movement, especially when he's being aggressive and on the offensive.

And with Oscar having stamina issues from time-to-time, including the Mayweather fight, I don't think setting a fast pace like that would've been good.

What I think Oscar really should've done different is jab more often. I only saw Mayweather use the counter right over it just one time, early in round 3, and Oscar walked through it.

[-Antonio-]

I had Quartey winning 8 rounds of the fight. That was another fight where Oscar would have easily won if would have just let go. He was just standing there posing while Quartey landed jab after jab. Tito would have been his career defining win, and he gave it away.

[bdevils]

De La Hoya did too little from rounds 7 to 11, and even lost round 6 when both went down b/c Quartey did the better work after the 2 KDs.

The judges were probably drunk or on the take that night to have him winning by 4 points.

i thought quartey (even the rds where there wasn't much action) took the rds with the jab and your right rd. 6 quartey won hands down. i mean i saw worst decisions than that fight but i thought quartey should of got the nod. what really gets me is oscar said something like he didn't there should of been a rematch that he didn't think it was that close now that's bull****.

[Hydro]

i thought quartey (even the rds where there wasn't much action) took the rds with the jab and your right rd. 6 quartey won hands down. i mean i saw worst decisions than that fight but i thought quartey should of got the nod. what really gets me is oscar said something like he didn't there should of been a rematch that he didn't think it was that close now that's bull****.

Oscar's opposition level is top notch, however he's not as admirable when it comes to rematches.

Whitaker and Quartey don't get rematches, neither does Sturm, but Chavez gets one.

And De La Hoya only chose to rematch Mosley after Mosley had lost twice in a row to Forrest, and was new to 154 (one no-contest there).

[Darkstar]

One thing about DLH is he was never really BEAT. He has lost but never really hurt. All the great fighters that beat him have had their day of blowouts.

Mosley- V. Forrest hands down just whipped his ass. We also cant forget how easy wink took him out.

Trinidad- B-hop had a easy win and was SHUTDOWN bu wright.

If you always box vs. the best, you will lose a few. But DLH was always been competitive and really hand a chance to win every fight.

[flipbjefrox]

If you don't think he was robbed the second time against Mosely, there's something totally wrong with not thinking he was robbed the second time around against Mosley. One of the biggest robberies in the history of boxing.

u need to watch the fight again with no volume and pay close attention. oscar wasnt landing.

[BmoreBrawler]

u need to watch the fight again with no volume and pay close attention. oscar wasnt landing.

Kinda like Floyd in the last fight....

[Living Legend]

If you don't think he was robbed the second time against Mosely, there's something totally wrong with not thinking he was robbed the second time around against Mosley. One of the biggest robberies in the history of boxing.

Oscar was robbed in the second fight against Mosley, but so was Quartey and Sturm...There was no way Oscar won either of those fights... Like I said in another thread oscar cannot win against fighters his own size or of elite skill and pedigree like himself..Oscar made his name busting up little dudes

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

DLH will remembered as a great fighter no matter what the outcome. He was robbed vs Trinidad no doubt and the 2nd Mosley fight could have gone either way. The one thing you fail to mention about DLH is he fought the best, never ducked anyone and never was not in a fight. He was competative vs EVERYONE he fought.
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DLH never ducked anyone??

ODLHtR ducked Winky Wright and Vernon Forrest, for example.

He never mentioned Winky's name even though Winky was calling him out for a long time and they were generally in teh same weight class (154).

Also, DLH wanted no parts of Vernon Forrest after VF handed SSM his ass.

Generally speaking, ODLHtR has fought very good competition (even though he lost to them all). No complaints from me. But he definitely found his way to fight Castillejo instead of Forrest, for example.