Winning Not Enough?

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  • cortdawg25
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    #1

    Winning Not Enough?

    Why in boxing is winning not enough? In other sports, all the fans care about is the W. They don't care if it was a dominating performance or if it was blowout or a close game. All that matters is that they can cheer and praise their team for getting the W for them. The Patriots are considered a dynasty for their Superbowl wins in the last 5 or 6 years. In every one of their wins in the Superbowl, they have won by a field goal. The St.Louis Rams, Carolina Panthers, and the Philadelphia Eagles all were defeated by a field goal. The San Antonio Spurs and Detroit Pistons are considered great teams for every single year they are in contention and winning the championships. Rarely, do they sweep other teams to make it to the finals and they are never criticized but cheered. The Yankees win often and always are in contention. They do face some criticism, more than most teams in the MLB, but no one is complaining when they are winning. My point is why in boxing a prize fighter winning is almost like losing if he doesn't win like the masses want him to win....
  • Diablo
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    #2
    Because boxing is a violent sport. When people tune in to watch boxing a majority of them are looking for blood and knockouts.

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    • Gareth Ivanovic
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      #3
      I would say it's because boxing now a days is more of an event sport. Meaning that the superstars of the sport only fight once or twice a year. So when they do fight it's like an event. It's enetainment for the people and the people want to see enertainement and that usually means a KO or all out war.

      Plus it seems people look at a true champion being somebody who goes out there and KO's most of his opponents. So when there is a fighter who goes out there and wins everytime, but not by KO or convincing fashion they find ways to degrade him and hate on him. I personally understand that not every fight is going to have a KO or be a war. If you have followed boxing enough you understand styles make fights. I definitely like the KO, but also the sweet science as well.

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      • Derranged_
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        #4
        Good topic. Let me give my argument; winning is not enough in boxing because the fights are few between, so when you do fight not only do you have to make it count, you also have to give an 'entertaining' performance and not just get the "W."

        Couple years ago, Oscar lost a fight he though he was winning convincly because he ran from his opponent in the champship rounds. He was just trying to get the "W" but at the same time he was robbing the fans of a good honest boxing match. Spectators want to see fighters 'mix it up' and provide excitment.

        Also, Football, baseball, basketball you have quite a few games in the season so if your team wins in boring fashion, chances are they will be more exciting in their next game or so. Let's talk about the Patriots; the Patriots have one alot of boring low scoring games and just got the "w" however the Pats have also won a great deal of exciting and competitive games as well.

        So, I think the difference is, fans expectations and the amount of games or fights a competitor competes in. In boxing, for me, I like to watch toe-to-toe action or exciting KO's and alot other fans probably feal the same way. Plus, if your fighter wins in boring fashion, then you have to wait several months to see him in action again not like other sports.

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        • cortdawg25
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          #5
          Originally posted by IncuFan
          I would say it's because boxing now a days is more of an event sport. Meaning that the superstars of the sport only fight once or twice a year. So when they do fight it's like an event. It's enetainment for the people and the people want to see enertainement and that usually means a KO or all out war.

          Plus it seems people look at a true champion being somebody who goes out there and KO's most of his opponents. So when there is a fighter who goes out there and wins everytime, but not by KO or convincing fashion they find ways to degrade him and hate on him. I personally understand that not every fight is going to have a KO or be a war. If you have followed boxing enough you understand styles make fights. I definitely like the KO, but also the sweet science as well.
          So do you think that if fighters fought like 5 times a year that mentality would change? Because to me, boxing isn't a KO, it's just a part of boxing kinda like the dunk is to basketball. I think it is kinda ridiculous to criticize a fighter in a win, especially a big win. Boxing is prolly one of if not the hardest sport there is and I think some fans don't appreciate like they should.

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          • bigdlb12
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            #6
            boxing is one on one
            team sports is team vs team

            I feel that if any other sports lose, they can blame it on the kicker, the defense, or the ofense, saying we did our part, the ...... didnt do theirs

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            • RAESAAD
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              #7
              A win is a win I agree but it is a better when you win in impressive fashion......like Florida beating the piss out of Ohio St.

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              • !! $iN
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                #8
                Winning isn't enough when you hate the fighter that won. That's all there is to it...

                If you're a football or basketball fan, you can't really blame anything if your favorite team loses a close game because you can see one team scored more points than the other...

                In pro boxing, there's no point scoring. It's all subjective. So anyone can say a fighter won/lost and there's really no right or wrong in a close fight. So a fighter can win a fight, but people can still say the fighter lost or should have lost because the scoring is subjective...

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                • Kobe Bryant
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                  #9
                  A win is a win. But boxing is known as a blood and guts sport. So people expect to see Rocky like efforts every fight.

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                  • Gareth Ivanovic
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cortdawg25
                    So do you think that if fighters fought like 5 times a year that mentality would change? Because to me, boxing isn't a KO, it's just a part of boxing kinda like the dunk is to basketball. I think it is kinda ridiculous to criticize a fighter in a win, especially a big win. Boxing is prolly one of if not the hardest sport there is and I think some fans don't appreciate like they should.
                    It possibly could, because if a top notch fighter is fighting 5 times a year you know at least a couple of those opponents wouldn't be that good and there could be a possible KO, but I still don't know if that would help. We live in the age of the Sportscenter Highlight. You see it in a lot of sports somebody may not be that good but they become highlight reel stars. Either by hitting that homerun, dunking, or making that big hit in football. Boxing provides that highlight reel KO. I understand what you say when the KO isn't the only part of boxing because it isn't there is a lot more too it than that. It should be appreciated more, but some people don't understand that they want to see the highlight reel KO.

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