Ok, apparently you didn't read what I purposely put in ALL CAPS for all to see so there was no misperception:
(THIS DOES NOT MEAN I CONSIDER THESE ROBBERIES)
By that it's clear I wasn't indicating that any of those fights were dominated by anyone. I don't know how to score a fight? Who does, then? Because, and I've run through this list before (but this guy is asking for it), apparently none of these guys do:
"I (Doug Fischer of maxboxing.com) scored the fight 116-112 for Hard Nard, as did David Mayo (Grand Rapids Press), Keith Idec (New Jersey Herald News), David Avila (Riverside Press Enterprise), Ramiro Gonzalez (La Opinion), Ron Borges (Boston Globe), and Tim Smith (New York Daily News). Steve Kim, Robert Morales (San Gabriel Valley Tribune & L.A. Daily News), Franklin McNeil (New Jersey Star-Ledger) and Ivan Goldman (The Ring) had it 117-111 for B-Hops. Joe Santoliquito (The Ring) had it 116-113 for Hopkins. Michael Katz (who covered the fight for Reuters), Max Kellerman (who was part of the HBO PPV broadcast team), Bernard Fernandez (Philadelphia Daily News), Kevin Iole (Las Vegas Review-Journal) and Paul Upham (secondsout.com) had it 115-113 for EX. The Associated Press had Hopkins up 114-113. Dan Rafael (ESPN.com) and Jerry Magee (San Diego Union-Tribune) saw it even, 114-114."
If Hopkins only won 10, 11 and 12, all of these guys not only didn't get it right, according to you of course, but they weren't even close! So none of these guys can score a fight. Everyone please disregard all of their collective opinions on boxing from here on out.
Of course, according to you, the actual judges of Toney-Peter I were also clueless as how to score a fight, so they should never judge again, right?
The ESPN poll? Hilarious, everyone knows if you want to know how a fight went, check the ESPN polls, not any boxing writer or boxing website.
But anyway, I'm not trying to start another Hopkins/Taylor debate, I just wanted to point out that I clearly stated that I didn't think it was a robbery, just a DISPUTED decision.
Do you disagree that it was a controversial decision? I put the list of fights there not as personal commentary, just as examples of where the judging went in favor to the aggressor despite the opponent's astute boxing performance. I don't know how you took me shouting "robbery" out of that. All of them were close, the fact that I put "very close" next to a couple doesn't mean that I think the others weren't close, just maybe not AS close.
But they were all close, well, except maybe Whitaker-Chavez.
(THIS DOES NOT MEAN I CONSIDER THESE ROBBERIES)
By that it's clear I wasn't indicating that any of those fights were dominated by anyone. I don't know how to score a fight? Who does, then? Because, and I've run through this list before (but this guy is asking for it), apparently none of these guys do:
"I (Doug Fischer of maxboxing.com) scored the fight 116-112 for Hard Nard, as did David Mayo (Grand Rapids Press), Keith Idec (New Jersey Herald News), David Avila (Riverside Press Enterprise), Ramiro Gonzalez (La Opinion), Ron Borges (Boston Globe), and Tim Smith (New York Daily News). Steve Kim, Robert Morales (San Gabriel Valley Tribune & L.A. Daily News), Franklin McNeil (New Jersey Star-Ledger) and Ivan Goldman (The Ring) had it 117-111 for B-Hops. Joe Santoliquito (The Ring) had it 116-113 for Hopkins. Michael Katz (who covered the fight for Reuters), Max Kellerman (who was part of the HBO PPV broadcast team), Bernard Fernandez (Philadelphia Daily News), Kevin Iole (Las Vegas Review-Journal) and Paul Upham (secondsout.com) had it 115-113 for EX. The Associated Press had Hopkins up 114-113. Dan Rafael (ESPN.com) and Jerry Magee (San Diego Union-Tribune) saw it even, 114-114."
If Hopkins only won 10, 11 and 12, all of these guys not only didn't get it right, according to you of course, but they weren't even close! So none of these guys can score a fight. Everyone please disregard all of their collective opinions on boxing from here on out.
Of course, according to you, the actual judges of Toney-Peter I were also clueless as how to score a fight, so they should never judge again, right?
The ESPN poll? Hilarious, everyone knows if you want to know how a fight went, check the ESPN polls, not any boxing writer or boxing website.
But anyway, I'm not trying to start another Hopkins/Taylor debate, I just wanted to point out that I clearly stated that I didn't think it was a robbery, just a DISPUTED decision.
Do you disagree that it was a controversial decision? I put the list of fights there not as personal commentary, just as examples of where the judging went in favor to the aggressor despite the opponent's astute boxing performance. I don't know how you took me shouting "robbery" out of that. All of them were close, the fact that I put "very close" next to a couple doesn't mean that I think the others weren't close, just maybe not AS close.
But they were all close, well, except maybe Whitaker-Chavez.
You don't even know how to score a fight, first of all the Toney/Peter first fight was not even clsoe, I had Toney winning 9 rounds in the first fight, just like I had Peter winning 9 rounds in the second fight.
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