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  • cupcrazy01
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    #21
    Originally posted by Gunstar1
    So you think Hopkins dominated Taylor in his 2 fights??? Fact is Hopkins didn't win a round until the 10th round in his first fight with Taylor, the second fight was a little closer, Taylor clearly won 7 rounds, the Wright fight could've gone to either men, the draw was a good score.

    It's funny the only 2 fights you think were close is Toney/Peter 1 and Vargas/Wright. You don't even know how to score a fight, first of all the Toney/Peter first fight was not even clsoe, I had Toney winning 9 rounds in the first fight, just like I had Peter winning 9 rounds in the second fight.

    Hopkins lost both of his fights to Taylor fair and square, get over it already.

    Taylor won the ESPN polls easily and that was after all the crying Hopkins was doing to his n00b fans who didn't know **** about Hopkins before the Tito fight.
    Ok, apparently you didn't read what I purposely put in ALL CAPS for all to see so there was no misperception:
    (THIS DOES NOT MEAN I CONSIDER THESE ROBBERIES)

    By that it's clear I wasn't indicating that any of those fights were dominated by anyone. I don't know how to score a fight? Who does, then? Because, and I've run through this list before (but this guy is asking for it), apparently none of these guys do:

    "I (Doug Fischer of maxboxing.com) scored the fight 116-112 for Hard Nard, as did David Mayo (Grand Rapids Press), Keith Idec (New Jersey Herald News), David Avila (Riverside Press Enterprise), Ramiro Gonzalez (La Opinion), Ron Borges (Boston Globe), and Tim Smith (New York Daily News). Steve Kim, Robert Morales (San Gabriel Valley Tribune & L.A. Daily News), Franklin McNeil (New Jersey Star-Ledger) and Ivan Goldman (The Ring) had it 117-111 for B-Hops. Joe Santoliquito (The Ring) had it 116-113 for Hopkins. Michael Katz (who covered the fight for Reuters), Max Kellerman (who was part of the HBO PPV broadcast team), Bernard Fernandez (Philadelphia Daily News), Kevin Iole (Las Vegas Review-Journal) and Paul Upham (secondsout.com) had it 115-113 for EX. The Associated Press had Hopkins up 114-113. Dan Rafael (ESPN.com) and Jerry Magee (San Diego Union-Tribune) saw it even, 114-114."

    If Hopkins only won 10, 11 and 12, all of these guys not only didn't get it right, according to you of course, but they weren't even close! So none of these guys can score a fight. Everyone please disregard all of their collective opinions on boxing from here on out.

    Of course, according to you, the actual judges of Toney-Peter I were also clueless as how to score a fight, so they should never judge again, right?

    The ESPN poll? Hilarious, everyone knows if you want to know how a fight went, check the ESPN polls, not any boxing writer or boxing website.

    But anyway, I'm not trying to start another Hopkins/Taylor debate, I just wanted to point out that I clearly stated that I didn't think it was a robbery, just a DISPUTED decision.

    Do you disagree that it was a controversial decision? I put the list of fights there not as personal commentary, just as examples of where the judging went in favor to the aggressor despite the opponent's astute boxing performance. I don't know how you took me shouting "robbery" out of that. All of them were close, the fact that I put "very close" next to a couple doesn't mean that I think the others weren't close, just maybe not AS close.

    But they were all close, well, except maybe Whitaker-Chavez.

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    • Wanks
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      #22
      Originally posted by cupcrazy01
      Ok, apparently you didn't read what I purposely put in ALL CAPS for all to see so there was no misperception:
      (THIS DOES NOT MEAN I CONSIDER THESE ROBBERIES)

      By that it's clear I wasn't indicating that any of those fights were dominated by anyone. I don't know how to score a fight? Who does, then? Because, and I've run through this list before (but this guy is asking for it), apparently none of these guys do:

      "I (Doug Fischer of maxboxing.com) scored the fight 116-112 for Hard Nard, as did David Mayo (Grand Rapids Press), Keith Idec (New Jersey Herald News), David Avila (Riverside Press Enterprise), Ramiro Gonzalez (La Opinion), Ron Borges (Boston Globe), and Tim Smith (New York Daily News). Steve Kim, Robert Morales (San Gabriel Valley Tribune & L.A. Daily News), Franklin McNeil (New Jersey Star-Ledger) and Ivan Goldman (The Ring) had it 117-111 for B-Hops. Joe Santoliquito (The Ring) had it 116-113 for Hopkins. Michael Katz (who covered the fight for Reuters), Max Kellerman (who was part of the HBO PPV broadcast team), Bernard Fernandez (Philadelphia Daily News), Kevin Iole (Las Vegas Review-Journal) and Paul Upham (secondsout.com) had it 115-113 for EX. The Associated Press had Hopkins up 114-113. Dan Rafael (ESPN.com) and Jerry Magee (San Diego Union-Tribune) saw it even, 114-114."

      If Hopkins only won 10, 11 and 12, all of these guys not only didn't get it right, according to you of course, but they weren't even close! So none of these guys can score a fight. Everyone please disregard all of their collective opinions on boxing from here on out.

      Of course, according to you, the actual judges of Toney-Peter I were also clueless as how to score a fight, so they should never judge again, right?

      The ESPN poll? Hilarious, everyone knows if you want to know how a fight went, check the ESPN polls, not any boxing writer or boxing website.

      But anyway, I'm not trying to start another Hopkins/Taylor debate, I just wanted to point out that I clearly stated that I didn't think it was a robbery, just a DISPUTED decision.

      Do you disagree that it was a controversial decision? I put the list of fights there not as personal commentary, just as examples of where the judging went in favor to the aggressor despite the opponent's astute boxing performance. I don't know how you took me shouting "robbery" out of that. All of them were close, the fact that I put "very close" next to a couple doesn't mean that I think the others weren't close, just maybe not AS close.

      But they were all close, well, except maybe Whitaker-Chavez.

      they guy who tried to pick your first post apart is a dumbass.

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      • tredh
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        #23
        Just want to see if anybody has changed their opinion and get a some new opinions.

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        • BmoreBrawler
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          #24
          Originally posted by tredh
          From the beginning boxing has always been about hitting and not getting hit.
          Lies. From the beginning Boxing has been a fight for money. If you dont fight, it follows that you arent really boxing(Floyd vs Oscar).

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          • eazy_mas
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            #25
            Originally posted by tredh
            Just because they don't have power does not mean they aren't just as good. All that means is they have less power.
            i agree with you. fighters should use what advatnge they have. if they have good hand and feet speed and with little power then they should be using more on the speed department because that is the smart thing to do.

            Human nature is to want people hurt and suffer that is way a young slugger usally have an advantge over and old boxer usally sometimes the case. Pre-fight interview with Oscar where Oscar quoted " He will win because he is the yonuger fighter."that was before Whitaker fight.

            another thing is the fighter are pressure to do KO his oppenet instead of using his smart to do that. For example Taylor abadon his jab which was very effective to try to KO his oppenet but usally the jab will make some opening which make the punch comes unexpectly and hit more effecitvly which produce a KO but most fighter are really trying too hard to KO because that is what the public demand and it also doesnt go in the mercy of the judges

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            • BrooklynBomber
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              #26
              Blah, blah, blah, fans this and boxing that, blah, blah, blah.
              Lemme put it as clear as possible: boxing fans like action packed fight. 5 punches a round, cute footwork and dumb smiles are NOT action packed fight.


              E.G. Mallignaggi-N'Dou, a boxing match more so then brawl, but an exciting boxing match at that.

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              • passdabutter
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                #27
                Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
                Blah, blah, blah, fans this and boxing that, blah, blah, blah.
                Lemme put it as clear as possible: boxing fans like action packed fight. 5 punches a round, cute footwork and dumb smiles are NOT action packed fight.


                E.G. Mallignaggi-N'Dou, a boxing match more so then brawl, but an exciting boxing match at that.
                i agree malignaggi put on a show and it was exciting to watch

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