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  • realheavyhands
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    #11
    its not about brawls its about fighters in the past were just better then todays fighters... they had all the skills and still had 1 punch power... tommy hearns ,marvin hagler, julian jackson , even john mugabi.. duran.. mcclellan...robinson .. archie moore .. now that toney jones and hopkins are old theres really nobody with the skills and the power... maybe james kirkland coming up..but not mayweather or spinks or taylor...there just not as good..

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    • tredh
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      #12
      Originally posted by realheavyhands
      its not about brawls its about fighters in the past were just better then todays fighters... they had all the skills and still had 1 punch power... tommy hearns ,marvin hagler, julian jackson , even john mugabi.. duran.. mcclellan...robinson .. archie moore .. now that toney jones and hopkins are old theres really nobody with the skills and the power... maybe james kirkland coming up..but not mayweather or spinks or taylor...there just not as good..
      Just because they don't have power does not mean they aren't just as good. All that means is they have less power.

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      • realheavyhands
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        #13
        Originally posted by tredh
        Just because they don't have power does not mean they aren't just as good. All that means is they have less power.
        i disagree.. when you have the skills and the power its better then just the skills...

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        • Bogler
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          #14
          it's about having the killer instinct. floyd doesn't have that. he's contented on winning on points lately. even though when he finds out during the fight that his punches wont bring down his opponent, he wont even try. he'll be contented w/ running and working from the outside.

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          • tredh
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            #15
            Originally posted by realheavyhands
            i disagree.. when you have the skills and the power its better then just the skills...
            It is also things that PBF is better than them at just like there are things that they are better than him at. I am not saying he is better than them just my opinion.

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            • GunStar
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              #16
              Originally posted by cupcrazy01
              Examples of this in decisions:
              (THIS DOES NOT MEAN I CONSIDER THESE ROBBERIES)

              Trinidad-De La Hoya
              Chavez-Whitaker
              Hopkins-Taylor I
              Taylor-Hopkins II
              Taylor-Wright
              Vargas-Wright (but very close)
              Urango-Ben Rabah
              Peter-Toney I (but very close)
              Hatton-Collazo
              So you think Hopkins dominated Taylor in his 2 fights??? Fact is Hopkins didn't win a round until the 10th round in his first fight with Taylor, the second fight was a little closer, Taylor clearly won 7 rounds, the Wright fight could've gone to either men, the draw was a good score.

              It's funny the only 2 fights you think were close is Toney/Peter 1 and Vargas/Wright. You don't even know how to score a fight, first of all the Toney/Peter first fight was not even clsoe, I had Toney winning 9 rounds in the first fight, just like I had Peter winning 9 rounds in the second fight.

              Hopkins lost both of his fights to Taylor fair and square, get over it already.

              Taylor won the ESPN polls easily and that was after all the crying Hopkins was doing to his n00b fans who didn't know **** about Hopkins before the Tito fight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Gunstar1
                So you think Hopkins dominated Taylor in his 2 fights??? Fact is Hopkins didn't win a round until the 10th round in his first fight with Taylor, the second fight was a little closer, Taylor clearly won 7 rounds, the Wright fight could've gone to either men, the draw was a good score.

                It's funny the only 2 fights you think were close is Toney/Peter 1 and Vargas/Wright. You don't even know how to score a fight, first of all the Toney/Peter first fight was not even clsoe, I had Toney winning 9 rounds in the first fight, just like I had Peter winning 9 rounds in the second fight.

                Hopkins lost both of his fights to Taylor fair and square, get over it already.

                Taylor won the ESPN polls easily and that was after all the crying Hopkins was doing to his n00b fans who didn't know **** about Hopkins before the Tito fight.
                if you look close hopkins landed more punches in alot of them early rounds... taylor never hit hopkins clean in the first fight exept 1 punch a left hook.. and a few body shots in the 11th

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by realheavyhands
                  if you look close hopkins landed more punches in alot of them early rounds... taylor never hit hopkins clean in the first fight exept 1 punch a left hook.. and a few body shots in the 11th
                  Hopkins only landed 9 more punches then Taylor, you forget that how many times Hopkins was holding and hitting Taylor which all of those punches was counted by the compubox, actually Taylor landed more punches if you take away the holding and hitting from Hopkins. Also most of Hopkins punches came in the last 3 rounds, you can't win a fight when doing nothing for the first 8 rounds.

                  Taylor Controlled the first 8 rounds with his jab, very easy fight to score, I give Taylor 7 out of the first 9 rounds and Hopkins the last 3 rounds, 2 rounds was even and I was being nice to Hopkins in those even rounds. This was not a close fight at all, I thought Taylor clearly won the first fight. The second fight was a little closer but still Taylor won 7 rounds in the second fight.

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                  • titoi
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by realheavyhands
                    its not about brawls its about fighters in the past were just better then todays fighters... they had all the skills and still had 1 punch power... tommy hearns ,marvin hagler, julian jackson , even john mugabi.. duran.. mcclellan...robinson .. archie moore .. now that toney jones and hopkins are old theres really nobody with the skills and the power... maybe james kirkland coming up..but not mayweather or spinks or taylor...there just not as good..
                    Thank you - I agree totally. For those who don't, please consider:

                    Hagler v Mugabi. Today we get Calzaghe against some made for prime time "contender"? Fuggin guy wasn't even qualified for an after-school special let alone a championship prizefight.



                    Arguello v Pryor. And today we get that pitter-patter horse-processed-oats of Mayweather-DeLaHoya? We can argue about the scoring and who "won," but judging by their unscathed faces after the fight it doesn't look like much of anything resembling a fight took place to me...



                    For my money we just don't have the same talent going into boxing as we did when it was more popular. (Not so surprising when you think about it!) And the guys who are really talented - like Mayweather - are so protected and busy "keeping it real" and doing nonsense marketing tasks that they're denied the opportunity to reach their real potential...

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                    • boxer2k5
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by tredh
                      There truly is a bias today in boxing against boxers. All most people want to see is slugfests, brawls, blood and guts. True those types of fights and fighters are a part of boxing. But they are not the only part of boxing. From the beginning boxing has always been about hitting and not getting hit. So what is the problem people why can't brawlers and true sweet science boxers both be respected like they should be? People have to understand its about winning and fighting the fight that is best for YOU not fighting the fight people want you to fight because all they want to see is blood and guts. The bias needs to stop and all fight styles need to be respected just because its not the style you like doesn't mean it is bull****. I don't like Vic Darchinyan's style but that doesn't mean I don't respect what he does in the ring and how he gets his wins.
                      i agree
                      id rather watch floyd
                      put on a masterpiece
                      than gatti ward

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