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2 possibilities.
1. if you outweigh him by 20 pounds:
bodywork, see how floyd had to cover up the head when dlh flurried on the ropes? that's because he had to protect his head more than against anyone else.
to do this you need to cut off the ring while jabbing and be fast enough for him to be worried of not be able to block all your punches. (margarito is clearly not the man)
you also need to be bigger than oscar and with beeter stamina, bcos floyd is so trained that bodyshots have usually little effect.
2. if you are around his size, you better be an all time great or hope he is injured.
finally.
"oscar didnt finish the job" "zab almost had him than he faded" that's all bull****.
there is a reason why fighters stop throwing when they fight pbf, it is simple and in front of everyone: they get hit in the face, nobody likes that.
Saying "take some" is easy taking them is a whole different story.Comment
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Oscar was probably almost 20 pounds more during the fight, didn't help much against a runner. Probably actually slowed down oscar.
Well, I thought Floyd fought like crap after zab hit him in the ****. That was in the later rounds though, they could have just stopped the fight if they wanted to. If you hit Mayweather in the **** in the first round, it's definitely just a warning. Plus, if it's on ppv and they stop it because of that. They'd have alot of pissed off people, but I doubt floyd could ever get a ppv ever again after the oscar fight. Oscar has the following not floyd.Last edited by EliteSoldier; 05-09-2007, 08:48 PM.Comment
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if you think so, go on to number 2.
anyway... Oscar was somewhere between 160-165, he was in great shape (one week before the fight he weighed in below 161, which he was required)
IMO Oscar was not 20 pounds heavier.
btw your logic is completely ****ed up: by what YOU say, a middleweight could not beat floyd. so a young jones, toney or hopkins would not beat floyd? you are crazyComment
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Lol. Oscar got so frustrated at one point he just started punching Mayweather in the arm.
When he did that I was thinking to myself, "Wtf!?" That's some **** you do in middle school.Comment
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Great offense beats great defense.
You don't have to chase Mayweather around the ring to beat him. Even if you guys don't agree with my below strategy, if nothing else I hope we can all agree on this, the fighters Mayweather faces will always lose if they go into fights with him and think they can only bike with him to get it done.
My approach to cracking that shell...
Floyd has to come out of that D for offense. I still think a combination of bait and jab range stalking would work best against Floyd if you can't match the pace needed to apply pressure, but are quick enough to be comparable in foot and handspeed to him. I would want him to move in and out. When he comes in - throw, and if he dodges and retreats don't commit to running after him. If he stays, and you can handle, trade, otherwise keep that jab range between you at all times.
- Stay close, but not too close
- You look open to hit, but actually anticipate incoming
- You look stiff, but when he comes in you are ready to counter
- You stay busy with the jab - but intend to counter his counter of your jab. If he doesn't counter, good. If he does, you're prepped for it.
- If he adjusts to your planned counters, mix in feinting your counters to counter his adjustments.Comment
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Bull****! Numero Uno he can be beat just like any other fighter if he gets caught with a big punch. Dont say it cant happen cause Demarcus ****in Corley staggered Floyd. 2. There are 3 good candidates who may have what it takes and (this is excluding some other very talented natural Jr Middles cause I doubt Floyd would take the risk)
they are:
Winky Wright-this is the fight I wanna see
Shane Mosley- He looked great against Collazo who is tough guy to look good against
Miguel Cotto- If he looks good against Judah his body work and ability to cut off the ring could be big trouble
an its exception not acception, acception is the act of acceptingComment
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no your logic make no sense
1.I divide the world of fighters in two those weighing at least 20 pounds more than mayweather and the smaller ones.
2. then I give my opinion on what fighters in both categories should do
your answer (already indicating that you did not really read my post, since I was stating "IF you weigh at least 30 pounds more, THEN do this") is that if you weigh 20 pounds more than mayweather it goes to your detriment.
by YOUR logic a middlewight would not be able to beat mayweather, because if you outweigh him by 20 pounds you are going to be too slow. (that's what comes out of your reply, not of my post)Comment
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Floyd doesnt move as much as people make him out to. He never even runs any more. Nearly everything he does with his body is at a slow pace nowdays. He'll just step to the side but he never moves all out like a Spinks. People try to say he gets on his bike but he doesnt. You can hit him all day if you want. The problem is that your mostly just going to be hitting his arms or he will slip or roll the punch. Still, you dont have to chase him down like alot of people say. He's right there for you. He'll just give you suttle movementComment
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