Why one judge had it for Oscar

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  • Bogler
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    Why one judge had it for Oscar

    Here's a snip from a boxing analyst's column:

    .... For the record, judges Tom Kaczmarek scored it 115-113 for De la Hoya while judge Chuck Giampa saw it 116-112 and judge Jerry Roth 115-113 for Mayweather.

    By the way, Kaczmarek, 79, authored the 29-page manual "You Be The Boxing Judge."

    "Of the three basic fundamentals in scoring a fight, a combination of clean punching and effective aggressiveness are the key factors," he said in the manual. "Whatever else is happening in the round, the fighter who is scoring clean solid punches, forcing the action and getting off first is going to win the round. Skillful ring generalship, which enables the fighter to control his opponent is also significant.

    "Good fighters usually possess a combination of good clean punching, effective aggressiveness and ring generalship. They score points and ultimately win rounds. If there is still not a clear winner, considering these factors, then good defense may well become the deciding factor."

    Now you know why Kaczmarek scored it for de la Hoya.
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    This is interesting.

    I know that many of the guys (and girls) here who have stepped into the pro ring can agree that sometimes its more wise to wear the "pity pat" shots than to move from them. I figured it was good coaching on Freddys part to make sure that De La Hoya only moved when was needed. It takes up too much enegry and puts you in too much of an un stable position if you are constantly un balanced from slipping and moving. I think Oscar did the right thing and wore the baby shots. He landed some great flurries and great shots of his own and seemed to damage Floyd more than the other way around. He semed more in control most of the time too. Maybe I got it wrong too. I also scored the fight 115-113 De La Hoya.

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    • wmute
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      #3
      Originally posted by Bogler
      Here's a snip from a boxing analyst's column:

      .... For the record, judges Tom Kaczmarek scored it 115-113 for De la Hoya while judge Chuck Giampa saw it 116-112 and judge Jerry Roth 115-113 for Mayweather.

      By the way, Kaczmarek, 79, authored the 29-page manual "You Be The Boxing Judge."

      "Of the three basic fundamentals in scoring a fight, a combination of clean punching and effective aggressiveness are the key factors," he said in the manual. "Whatever else is happening in the round, the fighter who is scoring clean solid punches, forcing the action and getting off first is going to win the round. Skillful ring generalship, which enables the fighter to control his opponent is also significant.

      "Good fighters usually possess a combination of good clean punching, effective aggressiveness and ring generalship. They score points and ultimately win rounds. If there is still not a clear winner, considering these factors, then good defense may well become the deciding factor."

      Now you know why Kaczmarek scored it for de la Hoya.
      four,

      that's all i have to say

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      • Bogler
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        #4
        Originally posted by wmute
        four,

        that's all i have to say
        so what are those four. did you rewrite his book?

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        • damian5000
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          #5
          So

          2 Judges
          HBO
          ESPN
          The Associated Press

          And the punch stats all score it for Mayweather....

          against...

          A geriatric patient and Floyd's estranged father.

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          • ben41193
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            #6
            i dont think he won the fight. But i dont think it was a dominant win for pbf

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            • LoftyDog
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              #7
              Originally posted by Bogler
              so what are those four. did you rewrite his book?
              Effective aggressiveness, clean punches, ring generalship, and defense.

              Even when you consider all those, Mayweather still wins IMO.

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              • PRboxingfan
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                #8
                If that's his criteria, which I do not argue against, then HOW did he score it for DLH when his punches were ANYTHING BUT clean and his aggressiveness ANYTHING BUT effective?

                Yes, DLH was the one coming forward; yes, DLH was the one who threw more punches. None of those factors matter since Mayweather's Ring Generalship was dictating the pace and that's the reason why DLH was coming forward, to try to catch the man who was clearly controling where they were in the ring for 2:30 of every round!

                Also, while DLH did throw more punches, a punch that lands on a glove, shoulder, elbow, or forearm is NOT to be scored as a connected punch but as a missed one. If that's the case, how could you give DLH anything more than 3 rounds (ok, I'll accept 4 maybe...maybe, if you had a bad angle)???

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                • Bogler
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by damian5000
                  So

                  2 Judges
                  HBO
                  ESPN
                  The Associated Press

                  And the punch stats all score it for Mayweather....

                  against...

                  A geriatric patient and Floyd's estranged father.
                  have you even googled who he is? im not defending him, i just found the article interesting so i posted it but calling him the way you called him was uncalled for i think.

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                  • wmute
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bogler
                    so what are those four. did you rewrite his book?
                    if you dont know what are those four, I should not be arguing with you on this topic

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