De La Hoya lost to Freddie Roach?

[eazy_mas]

it is simply chemstery some fighters are made for some coach and some are not

[-EX-]

Floyd won fair and square. All of you fools thought DLH was gonna knock Mayweather into another world. Whatever...

[No-mas-tias]

Freddy was telling Oscar to jab since the start of the fight, Oscar just didn't listen to him.

[Zeroflip1]

I think De La Hoya would have done better with FLoyd SR. Sr said he thought DLH won on points, and he also said he felt his son challeneging his fighter was a challenege to him. DLH may not have won either with SR in his corner, but I think he would look a bit less dazed, confused, tired, and just not ****ing knowing what to do. Freddie roach cut the camera on 24/7 because he didn't want anyone to see that his actual plan was to not have a plan. I just think DLH would been more comfortable with SR and I think it would have been an opportunity to show up FLoyd and Roger. Personally I would have went with the SR .

[Verstyle]

Freddy was telling Oscar to jab since the start of the fight, Oscar just didn't listen to him.

forreal,thats what im sayin. Even Oscar practically said it wasnt the night for the jab.As in he wasnt listening,u can say all u want to fighters,but if they dont do then nothing can be done.

[Zeroflip1]

forreal,thats what im sayin. Even Oscar practically said it wasnt the night for the jab.As in he wasnt listening,u can say all u want to fighters,but if they dont do then nothing can be done.

And I agree with this 100% . It just didn't seem like there was a fire in DLH's corner. He looked confused in the corner man. You know he comes out looking all bad ass and then he is sitting there looking like a lost puppy. Although we didn't get to see much of the DLH corner, everytime we did Roach's no plan - plan was in effect^^.

[Joartcc3]

I could be wrong, but I didn't hear too much coming from roach in the corner . We didn't get to see a lot in the corner, and I know it's always a good idea to let your fighter rest inbetween rounds and only give him bits of info at a time and not swarm him, but I think de la hoya coulda been pushed a bit more and fired up, not just a mumble of throw the jab son. I think A de La Hoya who showed up and fought on his toes, used his jab and tryed to set up a bit better rather than the follow floyd to the ropes and swing wild tactic, would have done a bit better. Could this possibly be because of Roach? Maybe the Mayweather Sr and Roach styles were too diff for de la hoya to adjust in just in just one fight. He just looked a bit confused and bewildered. Decent fight though.

Roach was the master tactician here.

DLH and Roach exposed Floyd in this fight. We all saw DLH blocking a lot of PBF's punches while getting flushed repeatedly.

Respect for Roach the master tactician

[maxorido]

I didnt really hear Roach at all. He is overhyped, he worked with fighter that were already good like Toney, and Pacmans non stop aggression would smother people like he has been doin regardless of his trainer. The least he could of done was have Oscar in shape and Oscar seem tired from the 4th round on. Maybe the rematch he will work with Floyd Sr since Floyd Sr. said he won.

I disagree. How can you blame Roach for Oscar getting tired? Are you going to blame Freddie because Toney came in way overweight for his last few fights? There are some things you can control as a trainer and some you can't. Oscar has a conditioning coach, if anyone is to blame it's either him or Oscar himself, for not working hard enough.

[realheavyhands]

Floyd sr would of made oscar use the jab " USE YOUR ****IN JAB MAN" i can hear it now

[eazy_mas]

I disagree. How can you blame Roach for Oscar getting tired? Are you going to blame Freddie because Toney came in way overweight for his last few fights? There are some things you can control as a trainer and some you can't. Oscar has a conditioning coach, if anyone is to blame it's either him or Oscar himself, for not working hard enough.

he lost because he lost it not the trainer who is going to fight for him.

anyway the trainer is been hired by the fighter