Mike Tyson embraces VANES and Recognizes Armenian Genocide

[Domain]

Hey Domain Chers mother is not Armenian at all. Please get your facts right. The only reason she does not admit she is half Armenian is because her father left them at a young age. Growing up, she never knew who he was. So therefore throughout her career she always said that she was native American.

As for Agassi, he is culturally assimilated. He doesn't even identify himself as an Armenian. You can say he is American with Armenian roots. As for his father, he is ashamed to mention he is Armenian as well. For some reason his father always thought that by Agassi mentioning he was Armenian, it would hurt his career.

and googler why do you have to say i am lying? it said her mother is part armenian you need to get your fact straight bro.

here:
Her mother, Georgia Holt (née Jackie Jean Crouch[6]), an aspiring actress and occasional model, is of Armenian, Cherokee, Irish, German, and English descent.[7][8] Her father was John Sarkisian, an Armenian refugee.

[VanesBoxing]

Your probably tired of getting ask questions. But here's 1 more. Did any ****** countries gave sanctuaries to the Armenians during the genocide?

not to my knowledge.

The Armenian Genocide took place during times of World War I so there was chaos everywhere. All countries, including the USA, turned a blind eye on the massacres taking place in the Ottoman Empire of the Armenian people.

here is a letter Theodore Roosevelt wrote just after the Genocide and World War I...

5/11/1918
"...the Armenian massacre was the greatest crime of the war, and the failure to act against Turkey is to condone it . . . the failure to deal radically with the Turkish horror means that all talk of guaranteeing the future peace of the world is mischievous nonsense."


then of course, years later

Adolf Hitler had this to say when he was persuading his associates to carry out the ***ish Holocaust and refering to the blind eye of the West.

"Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

[Domain]

Why do the Turks Deny Armenians?

Why does aremians get offended if someone accidently tell them are you Turkish? my friend was boxed in the face because he asked an armenian kid if he was turkish not knowing he was armenian and the kid started whooping him.

Are most Armenian very sensitive and temperamental like this?

This is why i am very cautious when talking to armenians sometime because i know they dont mess around.

[VanesBoxing]

Why do the Turks Deny Armenians?

Why does aremians get offended if someone accidently tell them are you Turkish? my friend was boxed in the face because he asked an armenian kid if he was turkish not knowing he was armenian and the kid started whooping him.

Are most Armenian very sensitive and temperamental like this?

This is why i am very cautious when talking to armenians sometime because i know they dont mess around.

they deny to save their name, but as they do so, it has brought their name down more and more over the years as people have come to realize that yes The Armenian Genocide did take place and history cannot be re-written.

They deny because they would have to pay Genocide reperations (by money and land)


kids will be kids, when you are growing up and you see so much hatred from elders between your nation and another nation, it is automatically instilled in you, usually for life.

[Domain]

they deny to save their name, but as they do so, it has brought their name down more and more over the years as people have come to realize that yes The Armenian Genocide did take place and history cannot be re-written.

They deny because they would have to pay Genocide reperations (by money and land)


kids will be kids, when you are growing up and you see so much hatred from elders between your nation and another nation, it is automatically instilled in you, usually for life.

so that explains the anger in many young armenians...just like tyson when he was wrongly accussed ant taken advantage of by people that is why he said he was so mad.

the turks should just apologize and recognize what happen its a shame.

[loui_ludwig]

not to my knowledge.

The Armenian Genocide took place during times of World War I so there was chaos everywhere. All countries, including the USA, turned a blind eye on the massacres taking place in the Ottoman Empire of the Armenian people.

here is a letter Theodore Roosevelt wrote just after the Genocide and World War I...

5/11/1918
"...the Armenian massacre was the greatest crime of the war, and the failure to act against Turkey is to condone it . . . the failure to deal radically with the Turkish horror means that all talk of guaranteeing the future peace of the world is mischievous nonsense."


then of course, years later

Adolf Hitler had this to say when he was persuading his associates to carry out the ***ish Holocaust and refering to the blind eye of the West.

"Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

Just ask cuz i have met Armenians who said they came from Iran. Just wondering if they migrated to Iran or their family ancestry fled to Iran to escape the genocide.

As far as recognizing the Armenian genocide, the US government probably does not want to do that right now cuz of its alliance with Turkey. If the US recognize the genocide, Turkey might abandon its alliance with the US. Sad to say this, but to the US government, their interest comes first. Turkey has influence in the middle east and the US cannot let that go. Can Armenia offer the same things that Turkey can do to the US in the middle east? I believe its better if Turkey recognize first cuz they are admitting to the crimes that that happened in the Armenian genocide. But its unlikely to happen. I hope the Armenian genocide and other genocides(Balkans, Rwanda) can be recognize.

Just to let you know, back in WW2, women from Philippines, Korea, China, and other coutries invaded by Japan, hundreds of thousands of them were force to sex slavery, **** by Japanese soldiers. I forgot what the term they call it, but to the Japanese, this was like their R @ R, to keep the Japanese soldiers morale high. The current Japanese premier said something a few months ago that cuz anger among the surviving comfort women(term used in Philippines). Don't know the exact words but somethng like their sorry but their not about to admit guilt.

Back to boxing, is Justine Fortune the physical trainer of Vanes? How will the split up of JF and Roach will affect Vanes?

[VanesBoxing]

Just ask cuz i have met Armenians who said they came from Iran. Just wondering if they migrated to Iran or their family ancestry fled to Iran to escape the genocide.

As far as recognizing the Armenian genocide, the US government probably does not want to do that right now cuz of its alliance with Turkey. If the US recognize the genocide, Turkey might abandon its alliance with the US. Sad to say this, but to the US government, their interest comes first. Turkey has influence in the middle east and the US cannot let that go. Can Armenia offer the same things that Turkey can do to the US in the middle east? I believe its better if Turkey recognize first cuz they are admitting to the crimes that that happened in the Armenian genocide. But its unlikely to happen. I hope the Armenian genocide and other genocides(Balkans, Rwanda) can be recognize.

Back to boxing, is Justine Fortune the physical trainer of Vanes? How will the split up of JF and Roach will affect Vanes?

Yes many armenians did migrate to Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Russia, USA, France, Argentina, alll over the world because of the Armenian Genocide.

and you are right about the US interests in Turkey. Of course a small Armenia cannot be the asset to the US that Turkey is.

.... back to boxing...

we are all real dissapointed with Justin Fortune and that he ruined somethin great with Freddie just because of money. He was a great physical trainer but since he is no longer welcome at WildCard, he will not be training Vanes anymore. Freddie is a mastermind of boxing, he will figure out a way to keep Vanes in top form. Vanes' dad usually gave him all the physical excercises to do anyway, so we should be fine.

also, Vanes will be sparring Bernard Hopkins this monday in a closed session at the WildCard. Should be fun to watch. Ill keep you all posted.

[loui_ludwig]

Yes many armenians did migrate to Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Russia, USA, France, Argentina, alll over the world because of the Armenian Genocide.

and you are right about the US interests in Turkey. Of course a small Armenia cannot be the asset to the US that Turkey is.

.... back to boxing...

we are all real dissapointed with Justin Fortune and that he ruined somethin great with Freddie just because of money. He was a great physical trainer but since he is no longer welcome at WildCard, he will not be training Vanes anymore. Freddie is a mastermind of boxing, he will figure out a way to keep Vanes in top form. Vanes' dad usually gave him all the physical excercises to do anyway, so we should be fine.

also, Vanes will be sparring Bernard Hopkins this monday in a closed session at the WildCard. Should be fun to watch. Ill keep you all posted.

Pacquiao was already in good shape before he arrive in Wild Card to be train by Fortune. So, hopefully this won't affect him.

Since you have more connections there in Wild Card, inform us who is the knew condition coach/physical trainer of Roach.

And is it true that Bobby "Low Blow" Pacquiao is already training there?

Alright, got to go to to the bank and then watch 28 Weeks Later in Glendale.

[Domain]

Just ask cuz i have met Armenians who said they came from Iran. Just wondering if they migrated to Iran or their family ancestry fled to Iran to escape the genocide.

As far as recognizing the Armenian genocide, the US government probably does not want to do that right now cuz of its alliance with Turkey. If the US recognize the genocide, Turkey might abandon its alliance with the US. Sad to say this, but to the US government, their interest comes first. Turkey has influence in the middle east and the US cannot let that go. Can Armenia offer the same things that Turkey can do to the US in the middle east? I believe its better if Turkey recognize first cuz they are admitting to the crimes that that happened in the Armenian genocide. But its unlikely to happen. I hope the Armenian genocide and other genocides(Balkans, Rwanda) can be recognize.

Just to let you know, back in WW2, women from Philippines, Korea, China, and other coutries invaded by Japan, hundreds of thousands of them were force to sex slavery, **** by Japanese soldiers. I forgot what the term they call it, but to the Japanese, this was like their R @ R, to keep the Japanese soldiers morale high. The current Japanese premier said something a few months ago that cuz anger among the surviving comfort women(term used in Philippines). Don't know the exact words but somethng like their sorry but their not about to admit guilt.

Back to boxing, is Justine Fortune the physical trainer of Vanes? How will the split up of JF and Roach will affect Vanes?

yup you made a good point because the japanese never apologized to those countries, because they were a bigger power to America, and armenia is very small and does not offer anything to america as far as Turkey does...its all about political power an gain.

[VanesBoxing]

Pacquiao was already in good shape before he arrive in Wild Card to be train by Fortune. So, hopefully this won't affect him.

Since you have more connections there in Wild Card, inform us who is the knew condition coach/physical trainer of Roach.

And is it true that Bobby "Low Blow" Pacquiao is already training there?

Alright, got to go to to the bank and then watch 28 Weeks Later in Glendale.

ya bobby is training already...

but he will never ever be anything close to his brother, thats a given.

take care buddy.