Am alone in thinking PACQUIOA should be 4 P4P now???

[loui_ludwig]

PBF deserves to be numero uno. His accomplishments is the proof.

Pac deserves to be at 2 cuz of his accomplishment also.

If PBF losses to Dela Hoya and if Pac fights a top jr. lighweight such as JMM or Guzman, then Pac can be consider number 1.

[DiegoFuego]

I don't even care about Pacquiao anymore. I was a big fan until he took this fight with Solis when he had Barrera on the table. Blame the promoters if you want, but Pacquiao can make demands too. HE IS THE FIGHTER after all. If he doesn't fight Barrera or Marquez by the end of the year, he can go into politics and leave boxing for all I care.

[PROUD MEXICAN]

I don't even care about Pacquiao anymore. I was a big fan until he took this fight with Solis when he had Barrera on the table. Blame the promoters if you want, but Pacquiao can make demands too. HE IS THE FIGHTER after all. If he doesn't fight Barrera or Marquez by the end of the year, he can go into politics and leave boxing for all I care.

That's not entirely accurate. If he did have Barrera on the table, it was on Barrera and GBP's terms. I mean, when Barrera issued out that challenge it was on their timeline. Why should PAC be the one forcing the issue here. It's the other guys who have to prove something. PAC already agreed to fight JMM because he's the #1 mandatory to JMM's title, but ARUM does not think that this a wise move. Because it only means that it will go to a purse bid, which GBP is banking on, since GBP/JMM will get the bigger cut. I'm with Arum on this one, that's why Top Rank is appealing to the WBC to make Soto the #1 guy, so they can force JMM to face Soto, it doesn't matter if Soto takes the smaller cut because he hasn't made a name for himself.

[loui_ludwig]

I don't even care about Pacquiao anymore. I was a big fan until he took this fight with Solis when he had Barrera on the table. Blame the promoters if you want, but Pacquiao can make demands too. HE IS THE FIGHTER after all. If he doesn't fight Barrera or Marquez by the end of the year, he can go into politics and leave boxing for all I care.

Remember that Pac wants to enter politics before the Solis fights and trained only in less than 6 weeks. While i dont' support Pac in politics, would you think its a smart move to run for politics and trained at least 2 months for a big fight with Barrera. Pac already dominated MAB. No need for the rematch.

[CoLd_WaVE]

anyone who doesn't think pac is not in the 2nd or 3rd place p4p should shut up and never talk about boxing ever again....

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anyone who doesn't think pac is not in the 2nd or 3rd place p4p should shut up and never talk about boxing ever again....

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shut up.

what does your supreme mind find wrong with having

1.pbf
2.winky
3.rafa
4.pacman

?

note that I am pretty much indifferent between any combination of numbers 2 and 4. They all have good credentials for being number 2 p4p

[Bonsi]

anyone who have rafa above Pac p4p is an idiot

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What's your point? PACMAN has been ko'd, tko'd, schooled, battered, and bruised. And after all that he still became a 2 time World Champ and went on and put a whuppin' on "legends". That's a mark of a true legend! So what if Erik was coming of a loss. Erik beat PAC the first time, if anything Erik had the advantage going into the 2nd fight because he had already beaten PAC . Zahir's style had nothin' to do w/ PAC's, two completely different fighters.

2003 PacMan most impressive whuppin: Barrera.

2004 Knocking Down Marquez 3 times in a round and then getting schooled for 11 rounds is not a whuppin

2005
Morales coming in the first fight had just lost to Barrera (ok barrera is barrera). He beats Pacman
Morales coming in the second fight had just lost to Raheem (Raheem is not an elite fighter). He gets KTFOed
Morales coming in the third fight had just lost to PacMan. And boo-hoo he loses again.


In the meantime pac fights Velzazquez, Larios, Solis

"So what if Erik was coming off a loss?"
so what? are you ******ed? a fighter is good when he wins fights, a fighter who loses fights is not that good anymore.

Pacman opponents after JMM:

3k: moving up from 122 to 126. previous fight: draw. previous 12 rounds fight: a loss (at 122).
Velazquez: a nobody, former 126.
Morales: see rest of post and add: former 126 (not a nobody, read the previous part of the post)
Larios: moving up from 122 to 130, previous fight: stoppage loss at 122
Morales: see above
Morales: see above
Solis: unbeaten but also unknown, untested, moving up from 126

and I have to read that pbf is gay, duck, ***** for fighting the current and former lineal champs at 147?
this while pacman did not even fight a single natural 130 fighter: every opponent of pacman at 130 was a featherweight or superbantamweight.

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ah its nice to have an ignore list and not be bothered by ******s comments, Bonsi

[PROUD MEXICAN]

shut up.

what does your supreme mind find wrong with having

1.pbf
2.winky
3.rafa
4.pacman

?

note that I am pretty much indifferent between any combination of numbers 2 and 4. They all have good credentials for being number 2 p4p

First off, what kind measurement do you use to rate these guys. If we're only rating this from a mythical matchup point of view, then hands down I think Rafa would beat PAC, maybe even ko him in the late rounds, then again RAFA isn't exactly known to have a great chin. But, since most of us include what each fighter has accomplished. I'd have to put PAC over Rafael.

Rafael beat Israel Vasquez. Are you aware of what PAC does to Rafael when they spar, and they've sparred often?? PAC abuses Vasquez! Although both fight in different weightclasses, PAC is such an undersized 130lber. that you can't really tell the difference in size. I mean, I can only imagine if PAC fought Israel in a real fight.