Mayweather, Jr. and Dana White Battle Again

[jswa17]

they are two different sports.

no reason to argue which one is superior.

but i bet fedor emelianenko beats all the boxers under MMA rule.

on the other hand, any boxer with good/great skills would **** up any mma fighter under Boxing rule.

[Kball15]

REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS, A BOXING vs UFC EVENT WOULD BE MAJOR STUFF.

IT WOULD ELEVATE BOTH SPORTS.

I WOULD DEFINETLY WANT TO SEE IT.

THEY SHOULD HAVE BOTH EVENTS. 4 MONTHS OF TRAINING THEN THE UFC FIGHT, THEN 4 MONTHS OF TRAINING AND THEN THE BOXING FIGHT.

I WOULD DEFINETLY PAY TO SEE THAT, WITH A FEW MORE OF THE SAME THING ON THE UNDERCARD. like lesser known fighters, but still a boxer vs a UFC guy.

[boxingfan420]

REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS, A BOXING vs UFC EVENT WOULD BE MAJOR STUFF.

IT WOULD ELEVATE BOTH SPORTS.

I WOULD DEFINETLY WANT TO SEE IT.

THEY SHOULD HAVE BOTH EVENTS. 4 MONTHS OF TRAINING THEN THE UFC FIGHT, THEN 4 MONTHS OF TRAINING AND THEN THE BOXING FIGHT.

I WOULD DEFINETLY PAY TO SEE THAT, WITH A FEW MORE OF THE SAME THING ON THE UNDERCARD. like lesser known fighters, but still a boxer vs a UFC guy.

I AM WITH YOU ON THAT. we as fans need to demand something like that from both sports, so they can stop all the **** talking.

It's notfair either when one discipline is used over the other.

Both should be used under both rules in seperate fights.


Then you can find out how good fighters really are, on both sides.


I THINK ITS TIME TO SPREAD THE WORD. MMA BEST VS. BOXING'S BEST.


make it a torunament. NOW THAT WOULD MAKE 100'S OF MILLIONS. IT WOULD BE WATCHED WORLD WIDE.


even the under card fighters would mmake a mill.

Personally I THINK FLOYD AND DANA SHOULD TALK SOME MORE SMACK TO EACH OTHER.


Let's get it on! Or is lets get ready to ruuuuuumbbbleeeee!

[DA1CATAS]

Humm... interesting. Props to you for the KO.
A few questions though, how obvious was his shoots? Did he jolt forward, or was it more of a scamper trying to grab your legs? and did his stance change to a wide stance when he was shooting? And my last question, what level was he shooting to chest, hip, knee, or foot?

He was only like 179 so he only had me by 7-8 pounds so he was still pretty quickly for the movements he was doing. Butonce he started going for my legs towards the end I was expecting them so I guess that was a lil obvious i dunno.It was almost like he was trying to Spear my thighs and sometimes my knees.


I couldn't be sure.. I just knew he was trying to get me down... I figured that was his goal from the start.. even though his Sen. said "Use your hand skills" he tried to punch a lil bit but it wasn't all that effective..I have to admit getting kicked in the thigh hurts like Hell but I didnt give up from it and started getting away from the kicks...Pivots and sidesteps made him move way too much.. so i was able to land a few hooks which I didn't think would be as easy.. I was expecting to only use the 1-2 alot.. I stepped in a few times and nailed him in the chin while he kicked to my thigh.. It was easy to land a few punches that way for both of us but his were wider and hit towards the back of my head more than my face. but i did that once and he tried to slam me so I spun like 3 times and flung him a lil with side stepping. But I felt a lil lucky he didnt slam me i have to admit so i didnt do that anymore.. thats when he started going for my legs... it was sort of like he was trying to block a kick with his shoulder or something.. i wasn't even thinking of kicking though... I was trying to punch his head to send his momentum(spelling?) down to the floor. I pushed him down a few times because i missed shooting so low like that.. but I'd jus back up after that kinda quickly so he wouldnt try and grab my legs or somthin.. anyway after a few attempts of him trying to grab my legs I rabbit punched a lil low into his back and then nailed him in the temple sort of from the angle he was at and that was it.


I must admit that....
going 5 minutes would take a lil getting used too.
Someone with more than 7 months training would have been harder.
Kicks to your legs Hurt like I never thought they would.
Actually a lil fun.
No way to land a uppercut without getting to close.

Also They....
Are like lil kids on the outside.(Big One)
Open for Rabbit punches.
Don't deal well with footwork. (Big One)


I had fun But in the end we're both not professional. He made a bunch of mistakes and so did I. But i came out on top so I'm figuring someone with faster hands could land a few more.. and FOOTWORK would be key for a boxer to beat an MMA... I hate to say it but someone that fights like gatti or baldo would get killed you have to be able to sidestep and pivot well to hang with a good mma fighter.A boxer with no footwork would get hurt unless they had dynamite hands and this is coming from a boxer

[DA1CATAS]

If true, thats good you tested yourself. Keep in mind he could have embellished his training, alot of posers do. Also, was he an MMA guy or a BJJ only guy who said he was into MMA? Unless they learn some Judo or Wrestling, alot of even good BJJ guys have horrible takedowns. I admit that.

Now on Sean Sherk, he has monster takedowns. Actually, some of the best in MMA.

hmmm Tell you the truth i just seem him training with the Karate master and doing kicks on the bag... and always practicing on the heavybag but its on the floor lying down which looks a lil dumb to be honest.. i know its to imitate someone on the floor but still.

always running and working on legs.. lifting weights and whaeva.. I know he's into MMA cuz thats all them guys talk about... but as too actually fighting MMA i don't know so i wont say yea.. But Yes he does do the takedown things on the other guys in the Gym that i know have had martial arts fights for a fact... But I've never really talked to this cat on that level to be askin and what he actually does.. i'll ask him monday when i go in cuz they have off on saturdays.

get back to ya

[1bad65]

Cool description. Thanks. You said the leg kicks hurt, they do, you are tought to kick the hamstring. Now some instructors want you to hit the 'meat' of the leg, others like you to hit just above the knee where that muscle ends. Mine prefers to hit low, but I actually go for the 'meat' area because if I miss and hit the knee it actually hurts my shin.

Be honest ok. You won, but do you have more respect for MMA guys as athletes than you did before? Like do you actually see that what they do requires training and skill? Or do you think they are just unskilled brawlers? I'm curious.

[freedom213]

No one is undervaluing a boxer's quickness with his HANDS or his punching strength. The problem comes when a person shoots on a boxer. There's not much a boxer can do to that person, besides hoping that the person who is shooting at him sucks at shooting and likes to give major hints when he's shooting. Only then can he line a solid punch hard enough on the guy to stop his shoot. When a person generally shoots in on another, the level of the fight changes. It switches from a shoulder height, to a foot and knee level. Thus when it switches levels, it takes the typical boxer out of his element and thus negates a vast amount of potential damage from punches.

@ the general ignorant public. I don't mind educating people, but ****in come on. You can use some common sense here. The factors I'm talking about are not that hard to visualize. This is really feeling like I'm talking to a bunch of mentally challenged kids.

look if you were even remotely close to being 100% correct on this, mma fighters like chuck liddel wouldnt have a chance. just like boxers when mma fighters fear their opponents striking power they tend to be very cautious about shooting like a madman on takedowns. they keep a respectful distance and use movement to shoot at strategic moments. I have watched a lot of mma Pride, UFC, King of the ring and have seen very few fighters who wer as quick on their feet, even remotely quick with their hands or possesed the punching power of the top boxers in comparable weight classes. Of course at the lower weights i give mma fighters more of a chance but as the fighters get into the super middle and their power increases I think their chances for scoring devasting strikes increase. this is an opinion and I could be wrong but we wont know till the day these twoo sports get together.

Its regretful that people(kids) like you come in here and try to insult people for no reason. I think most people here don't need much "education "on combat sports and are far from being "chilfdren or ******ed". you need to grow up junior learn some manners and watch your mouth.

[DA1CATAS]

Cool description. Thanks. You said the leg kicks hurt, they do, you are tought to kick the hamstring. Now some instructors want you to hit the 'meat' of the leg, others like you to hit just above the knee where that muscle ends. Mine prefers to hit low, but I actually go for the 'meat' area because if I miss and hit the knee it actually hurts my shin.

Be honest ok. You won, but do you have more respect for MMA guys as athletes than you did before? Like do you actually see that what they do requires training and skill? Or do you think they are just unskilled brawlers? I'm curious.

I mean.. 5 mins is a long time to go.. so i respect that alot.
I respect that They take alot of kicks.. cuz they hurt alot more than they look. I guess you guys get numb to it or sumthin. OVERALL I do respect them more than i did before because this guy was only about 7 months...
abny fighting requires skill.. BUT yea You must train to do that stuff.. because we never went to the floor for me too see what he would do down there because I was just not gonna allow it to happen. But yea.. their not brawlers... But their punches are very untamed... all the other things kicking and wrestling and all that stuff does take a certain degree of skill.

Respect them alot more as I think about it. It would be a very interesting fight between 2 Pros from the different sports. Very interesting.

[1bad65]

Cool. Glad you realize they actually train. Thats cool to be open minded. Some MMA guys have good hands, but not as good as boxers. And I admit some guys in MMA really do hate getting hit. But like I said before, MMA guys usually respect boxers and their skills. Most top-level fighters and the better gyms actually have a boxing coach. My instructor actually started as a Muay Thai/Boxing guy and learned his ground game alot later in life. The guys at our gym usually have better hands than most other MMA gyms. And we often send out our MMA guys to other boxing gyms to work their boxing skills.

Two of our fighters actually box as pros too. One of them won a Golden Gloves event before he went pro.

[Naiujiro]

look if you were even remotely close to being 100% correct on this, mma fighters like chuck liddel wouldnt have a chance. just like boxers when mma fighters fear their opponents striking power they tend to be very cautious about shooting like a madman on takedowns. they keep a respectful distance and use movement to shoot at strategic moments. I have watched a lot of mma Pride, UFC, King of the ring and have seen very few fighters who wer as quick on their feet, even remotely quick with their hands or possesed the punching power of the top boxers in comparable weight classes. Of course at the lower weights i give mma fighters more of a chance but as the fighters get into the super middle and their power increases I think their chances for scoring devasting strikes increase. this is an opinion and I could be wrong but we wont know till the day these twoo sports get together.

Chuck is a kickboxer, wrestler and has like a brown belt or something in BJJ. He doesn't only use his hands. People are very cautious in shooting in on him cause he has amazing sprawl and will heavily tax them every time they shoot. His kicks will send you to another angle in the octagon. Using effective kicks change the range of the fight drastically. If a person only relies on their boxing, then their range is always going to be closer then say, a kickboxer. And in the boxer needing to get closer to the opponent, it massively increases the chance of successful shoots, also resulting in less time for the boxer to react.

Its regretful that people(kids) like you come in here and try to insult people for no reason. I think most people here don't need much "education "on combat sports and are far from being "chilfdren or ******ed". you need to grow up junior learn some manners and watch your mouth.

freedom213, go back to ****in school, and learn the basics of fighting. **** off, tard.